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Hi all! I was browsing the Hannants website and they have a Zvezda 1:144 787 listed under Future Releases. Any info on this kit and when can we expect it? Also, they have a Revell Lufthansa A380 listed. Cheers! Vinny 
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Yes interesting, according to Hannants the catalogue number is 7008. The 767 is 7005, so I wonder what 7006 and 7007 are? Perhaps and IL62 and a TU-144?? Dreams are free I guess. But the Revel Lufthansa A380 is logical, given that Lufthansa is close to getting theirs, and what better chance for Revell to flick off a few kits in the national carriers livery! cheers George |
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#30165 10-29-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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Maybe one of them is an MD-11 w/ tug and baggage carts... Martinair & KLM liveries included.  Yes, one can dream.Quote Forgive my ignorance, but the A380 comes with two different motors.. Does anyone know which carriers are using which motors? Perhaps I should check my kit... I thought it only had one engine type. I like those new AF decals but I think AF uses a different motor. |
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#30166 10-29-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote AF uses EA' GP7200's. LH uses RR. The Revell Kit has the same nacelle for both engine types but different fans and exhaust cones to depict the GP7200 and RR Trent 900's. I don't think this is accurate, but of course the revell kit came out in 2002, well before details of the real thing were in the public domain. I think revell did a good job, but if you want better engines, I'd say go with the Heller kit. Besides the Heller kit is huge! For the ones in service, QF = RR, EK = EA, SQ = RR. For others yet to receive their 380's, AF = EA, LH = RR, EY = EA But getting back to the 787 kit (sorry for going off topic), if Zvezda is doing a kit, then they sure are going head to head with Revell. Lets hope there is some common sense and Revell does the 787-8 and Zvezda the 787-9. Unless of course they have done a deal with Revell and are simply repackaging revell plastic in Russia!! Who knows? Time will tell I guess. Cheers George |
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#30168 10-29-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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The 787 box was disclosed few days ago at Moscow Toys Exhibision (for professionals only, so I could'n attend it). Only box was demonstrated, without any sprues etc. You can see part of this box at background here: http://www.dishmodels.ru/gshowp.htm?p=6109&id=72450 |
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#30169 10-29-2009 GMT-5 hours
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WOW!!! Thatīs means that first Dreamliner in scale will be from Zvezda??? When is supposed that Revell start to sell theirs? Maybe is another collaboration between this two brands like with Il-86. Saludos In the line of asesembly: |
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#30171 10-29-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote I think Revell had intended to release theirs this year, but I also heard that it will be next year. But it certainly looks like Zvezda has come to the party as well! Would have been nice to see an IL-62 from Zvezda but I am happy with anything from them because I think they are very good. Their TU-160 Blackjack is a nice kit. cheers George |
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#30173 10-29-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote Just searched the ZVEZDA webside and catalogue # 7003 isn't yet assigned.... Or their numbers 7006 & 7007 will be military kit releases (e.g. 7002 Tupolev TU-160)? Sven |
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#30177 10-30-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote 7003 is the 1/125 A320 kit they issued, which was a reissue of the Heller Kit. It is quite fitting that the 787 is going to be 7008, kind of goes with 787! I know probably just coincidence. But I am very intrigued to know what 7006 & 7007 are... I hope the 787 is a New Zvezda tooling, so far they have more than met expecations with the IL86, TU154 and 767 kits. |
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#30179 10-30-2009 GMT-5 hours |
Quote Oh wow! I sure hope there are no major changes to the aircraft before it flies! I am happy to see that they are producing it too, and it gives us more than one option when choosing to build the type. One has to wonder though. Who will have better quality, Revell or Zvezda? I have not built or gotten the 767 yet, but the picture you posted sure makes my mouth water. I have to admit, Aeroflot looks hecka sexy in that livery. Is Aeroflot flying into SEA anymore? |
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#30183 10-30-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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I think Zvezda desided to skim the cream while Revell still postponing its 787. No doubt, in 1/144 scale Zvezda turned to European market from Russian one. They had established cooperation with Boeing, so what surprise from Zvezda can we wait? 777? MD11? Who knows?
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#30184 10-30-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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99% Revell tooling. The 767 thing was, because it was not a revell tool, it was one from ACE, revell only leased it from time to time. Why should they work on a 787 parallel? they shared so many toolings, i guess they will continue with this! Atari |
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#30186 10-30-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote What toolings are shared? I have both the Revell and Zvezda kits, not one thing is the same (except they are both very good kits of the 767 with Zvezda being far better) Keep em separated! |
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#30187 10-30-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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Not the 767. They could not share the tooling, because it wasnt from revell. They only leased it from ACE, thats why Zvezda made its own. They shared the Mi-8, IL-86, Mig-31, Mi-24 and many more... Atari |
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#30270 11-07-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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According to AHS today, Russell states that the 787 Zvesda will roll out in 2009. Can anyone verify that? Wow.
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#30280 11-08-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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I think we'll see it this year, meybe beginning of 2010.
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#30282 11-08-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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Zvezda's representative confirmed 787 issue this December.
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#30285 11-08-2009 GMT-5 hours |
 Thank you Vladimir, great news.........what else did the 'representative' tell youRegards, Cesar KMIA |
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#30287 11-08-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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Vinny hi.. I have seen the Hannants website also...and i think when the kit comes out , it will be no1 in sales! I can't wait to order it  like maaaaaaaany others , right guys? Also, i think that Zvezda allready , kicks Revell. Before i see the online catalogue of Hannants,i expecting from Revell (?) to make the production first of 787 not Zvezda.Anyway ,for me,Revell and Zvezda ,are the best , so far.. happy modeling to all miss Nina |
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#30289 11-08-2009 GMT-5 hours
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At least weīre going to see a Dreamliner fly before the end of 2009, although itīs a scale plane!  saludos In the line of asesembly: |
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#30299 11-08-2009 GMT-5 hours |
Quote LMAO!!! Sadly, you may be right! |
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#30317 11-09-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote To say with Galileo Galilei: "But it does move!" Really? Will it? Ever? If the whole project is more and more delayed it will be outdated before it's maiden flight.... Did I missed something? What's the current state? Sven |
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#30320 11-09-2009 GMT-5 hours
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The 787 from Zvezda sure is a surprise, and if it is true that it will be released soon, then that is fastest release of a model kit I have ever heard of. I wonder how long they have been working on this project. Can't wait to see sprue shots of it. George EDIT: Here's a link to Dragon Models USA that has a pic. Dragon Models Details read: The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is a mid-sized, wide-body, twin-engine jet airliner currently under development by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. Its maximum seating capacity in a one-class configuration is between 290 to 330 passengers depending on variant. Boeing states that it will be more fuel-efficient than earlier Boeing airliners and will be the first major airliner to use composite materials for most of its construction. This kit features: - 76 parts in 3 sprues. - Decal of Boeing original livery BRING IT ON!!!!
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#30349 11-12-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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I wonder what engines this kit will have? GE or RR?
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#30401 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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A single picture tells more than thousand words... And two pictures?   
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#30402 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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Is it from the picture or are the Fanblades to see through? That would be a milestone! Marcel |
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Yeah! I saw it too, those fan blades made me say WOW!!!! I count at least 16 parts for engines!! A hard hit to Revell!  maybe theirs will be another version (I hope so).Surely my next kit Saludos and thanks for the pics! In the line of asesembly: |
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#30408 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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Three pictures.... 
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#30409 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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I am about to jump out of my skin from the excitement!!!
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#30411 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Thanks Eugene for the pics!!! What a tease!!!! Wahoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And those fan blades, that's a first surely??!?!?!?!? EDIT: OK, the kit instructions are posted on the Zvezda website as PDF's. Look here. Have a look at the Fan assembly, it's incredible. Die cast models eat your heart out! Nothing beats plastic kits!!!!!!!!!! |
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#30412 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours 
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OH MY GOD! I'm deeply in love! (beat that Revell!)
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#30413 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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WOW. I AM IN LOVE!!!!!!!!
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#30414 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Oh My Gosh, such a lovely example! But wait, there are no decals out for it yet, lol!
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#30415 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Yeah! The engines are incredible! Never saw such high detailed engines before! Never ever! I wonder that Revell never made such fanblades. These are the first real engines I think! Revell may learn a lesson from Zvezda! No doubt Zvezda has the nose in front! Quote Yepp! It will take a while until the 787 is in service. And - maybe - some customer airlines will change their livery with deliveries of their ordered 787s??? Sven |
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#30416 11-18-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote Likely! But one airline we CAN be sure wont change liveries, even 1000 years from now is good ole' AA! That would be a slick as hell model in AA colours. In progress: |
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#30425 11-19-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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But how will American finish their 787s? There's no natural metal on the fuselage or vertical fin to polish to a shine. If they do what they did on their A300-600Rs, they will look like big grey battleships. The grey A300s were so unpopular that Airbus had to invent a special procedure just for AA to allow them to strip the aircraft back to bare metal (at great expense). J |
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#30426 11-19-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote Yepp! That's why Lufthansa rejected their bare metal scheme in mid 80's - too expensive for their A300 fleet. But - if Zvezda is out now with the 787 (and fantastic engines!!!!) - do you believe Revell will release the 787-kit anyway? Or will Revell be no match for Zvezda? Or maybe Revell will cancel the 787 kit? What do you think? My opinion: I would prefer Zvezda (even if I didn't see the Revell sprues yet but can't imagine Revell will have comparable engines). According the instrution sheet the fans seems to be rotating! Just like real! And - Zvezda is number one. Sven |
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#30427 11-19-2009 GMT-5 hours |
Quote Why, Alclad II, of course! ;) With American's BAC One-Elevens 45 years ago, BAC relented a little and AA got their bare metal. Except, that is, for the centre section where wing and fuselage met. There, (waa-a-it for it..!) a _foil_sticker_ was used to cover the substantial bits which BAC would not, never, ever, nohow allow to be stripped down to bare. The foil is visible very clearly in photos and, as far as I know, never gave any delamination or other problems. No news to us modellers, though! |
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#30428 11-19-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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I don't know how American will finish their 787s. But prior to finish, they must have a start ...but AA still not ordered 787 AFAIK.
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#30429 11-19-2009 GMT-5 hours
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I love those engines! If only all the kits would retrofit to this type of engine design! Here is one that I will not have to do any PE for! Great work Zvezda!
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I actually read on airliners.net sometime ago that AA is looking at paint that will resemble polished aluminum. So skippiebg might be on the right track! Maybe AA should consult us??  Chris |
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Yeah, I was thinking about something along the lines of the last NWA scheme. I think that was sort of a pearlescent silvery-grey paint. I think the AA scheme would look fine on that, but not on plain old BAC 707 Gray. J |
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Here's what I think: We find a way to introduce AA to our friends at Alclad. They strike a deal for the paint for the 787. For our part, AA will no longer sic their lawyers on us should we choose to (advertise) and make decals to depict their aircraft, and Alclad gives us airliner modelers a super discount on their paint. Why not? Alclad will make lots o' money, AA will still have the great bare metal look, even on plastic..... And to think it all started here at Airlinercafe with skippie! Keep em separated! |
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#30443 11-20-2009 GMT-5 hours
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Quote Hmmm....might be a possibility... But how does Alclad works at low temperatures and low air pressure in 35.000 ft?????? 
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#30451 11-20-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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This kit looks amazing! The engines are awesome! Zvezda are truly setting the standard now. Hopefully they'll be able to supply some decent decal sheets in the future though... any time I buy their models the decals have already yellowed.Anyways, well done Zvezda! 
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#30452 11-20-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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I think the kit is going to change some standards of detail. For sure I am buying a couple. I hope someone makes a Boeing decal set that has those little white lines on the fuselage. AA, who cares, the kit is going to look great in Continental colors Walter IAH |
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#30465 11-22-2009 GMT-5 hours |
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The kit is already in Moscow shops. Stay tuned.
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#30466 11-22-2009 GMT-5 hours
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