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      Post #70767, posted on 09-29-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi everyone!

      Seems like most airliner kits have the Flap track fairings molded as part of the wing.... This makes it hard to paint the under side of the wing if there is any coroguard or different color in the center part of the wing.

      I've tried painting the corguard first then masking it and then painting the fairing... I've tried painting the fairing first then masking it to then paint the coroguard... I've used masking fluid. I've tried tape of about 1,000 different types... Nothing I've tried gives a very pleasing result--especially on their leading edge.

      Has anyone come up with a method of painting/masking these fairings that produces a quality result?

      Thanks!

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      Post #70769, posted on 09-30-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Chris...

      Based on the information you're giving here, its hard to be specific as to exactly how one would go about masking a flap track fairing. I would suppose the answer would depend on the specific aircraft and flap track fairing you're painting, and the size (scale) of the model. Seems that most of the more recent airplanes, Boeing and Airbus alike, have fairings that are painted the same color as the wing, therefore, no masking would be needed. Some of the older airplanes that have coroguard may indeed have differently painted tracks. Before you begin, make absolutely sure that your surfaces are clean! So...3 ways to skin this cat:

      1. Mask the flap fairings to paint the coroguard. Using vinyl tape for curves, completely covering/sealing the fairings, then paint the coroguard. After the paint cures and you're satisfied its ready to handle, mask the coroguard, and paint the fairings. Remember to get the tape off as soon as possible to prevent sticky residue. The residue can be removed using hot soapy water or isopropyl alcohol and a very clean cotton cloth with minimal pressure.

      2. Reverse #1; mask the coroguard and paint the fairings first. Then, mask the coroguard to paint the fairings.

      3. Paint the coroguard surfaces and the flap fairings without masking, allow to cure, then apply a coroguard decal with the slots cut for the fairings. Be careful...the decals may tend to wrinkle or tear along the slots. You may need to apply a solution to make them more pliable and toughen them up a bit.

      Just takes practice to build your level of confidence in your skill. You'll get it right! Happy modeling!

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      Post #70770, posted on 09-30-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Use decals

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      Post #70771, posted on 09-30-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      1. Build 707s so you don't have the problem
      2. Build kits with separate canoes (I regularly look at part breakdowns before tarting to avoid PITA kits)
      3. Chop them off first and reattach them

      Joking and workarounds aside, my favored approach for things like this is to paint on masking fluid, and then before it fully dries, use a hobby knife at a 45-degree angle around the font of it, and once it's fully dry, remove the section you don't need. The bonus with this approach is that you can redo it if you mess it up.

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      Post #70773, posted on 10-01-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks, Everyone!

      I'm currently working on an American 767 so that's where my most recent bout of frustration originated. I painted the Boeing Gray on the wings and then tried to mask the fairings to then paint the coroguard. I usually prefer to do paint the coroguard second as I feel it makes it a little easier to accurately mask the coroguard... but I'll try it another way next time.

      This time around I tried about 10 different types of tape used in different ways but the results weren't that great. Have not tried the tape for curves though. I've got some so I'll give it a whirl.

      LH707, I like your idea of removing the fairings and putting them on after painting. I'm also currently building a Hasegawa DC-10 and the fairings are separate parts that I have intentionally left off the model until painting is complete (for this very reason).

      Jennings, That would probably be the easiest thing to do.... ;)

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      Post #70778, posted on 10-01-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Take a look here:

      http://joydecals.com/1-144-scale-decal-coroguard-767/

      http://www.fcdecals.com/page.php?id=77

      http://www.fcdecals.com/page.php?id=78

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      Post #70779, posted on 10-01-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I like to use this product, myself.


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      Post #70780, posted on 10-01-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      I like to use this product, myself.





      Ha ha well played!

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      Post #70782, posted on 10-02-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      I like to use this product, myself.





      Wow! That looks like some magic juice! Is there a hobby shop in DFW that sells it?? I'll be there in a couple weeks!

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      Post #70784, posted on 10-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      The flap track fairing mask stuff looks great. Is it out yet or do I have to wait till April to get it at my local shop?

      Seriously I'd use some of the stretchy vinyl tape and trim around it with a sharp X-acto knife.

      Confession time sometimes I just "ignore" the lower corogard and leave the lower wing all gray. Most of the time I'm the only one who knows.

      Good luck. Many options have been mentioned.

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      Post #70788, posted on 10-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I'd be very cautious on the first item. Joy has it listed as 1/144. But LU code
      for their 1/144 range begins with A4, not A2 as shown on the photo. A close look
      reveals it actually IS a 1/200 sheet. If you plan on ordering it, verify. There
      are no issues with the Flying Color items. Glad to see Ahmed still has them.


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      Take a look here:

      http://joydecals.com/1-144-scale-decal-coroguard-767/

      http://www.fcdecals.com/page.php?id=77

      http://www.fcdecals.com/page.php?id=78


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      Post #70790, posted on 10-04-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      BruinPrideBand :Jennings, That would probably be the easiest thing to do.... ;)



      That's why I came up with the idea (you heard it here first) in the 1990s. I had people literally calling me up on the phone and laughing at me for making Corroguard decals. Stupidest idea they'd ever heard of.

      Yeah, until they started selling like freaking hotcakes, that is...


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      Post #70802, posted on 10-09-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I need some of those freakin hot cakes.

      I am starting an Authentic Airliners MD-11, and need some coroguard for THAT particular model. Any suggestions? Jennings, can you make me a set?