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Forums | 1.0 Airliner Modeling | Airliner Modeling Chat | Airfix A300 v A300-600

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XRadar Upper Deck Member Add As Buddy Posts: 1209 Location: Occupation: Keeping the skies safe Age:	#21824 07-06-2008 GMT-5 hours
	Simple enough question, hopefully some light can be shed on this for me. I am working on an American A300, presumably (from all the pictures on Airliners.net) American flies the -600. The length listed for it on the Airbus website is: 54.10m. I have a handy dandy book that has been read a million times since I got as a kid, and of course only lists the A300B2, B1, and B4. The lengths listed are: B2 53.75m and B1 50.96m. The Airfix kit is an A300B. OK.....A300B what?! Now if it is a B2 or B4, I can live with the very slight difference in length, but if it is the B1, then some work needs to be done. Anyone have any definitive info on this? As a side question, when did they stop making them with the dorsal spine? Thanks for any help! Keep em separated! Steve

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scotty100368 Members Add As Buddy Posts: 159 Location: Queanbeyan Occupation: YSCB ramp Age: 45	#21825 07-06-2008 GMT-5 hours
	Steve, The Airfix A300B can be a B2 or B4 depending on the livery you finish it in. The difference between these two variants was internal only - the B4 had improved range due to extra fuel capacity and some structural strengthening due to the extra weight. BTW, there were only 2 B1s built; the protoype and the demonstrator that saw service with Trans European Airways, rego OO-TEF. http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=OO-TEF&distinct_entry=true Sadly, Airbus chose not to preserve either. (Unlike Boeing who have preserved several of their aircraft for their historical significance) However, they have since preserved a B4 displaying the prototype B1's livery and rego. http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=F-WUAB&distinct_entry=true As for the dorsal antennae fairing, that disappeared when production switched to the -600 version. (formally known as the B4-600) Scott.

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skippiebg Contributors Add As Buddy Posts: 717 Location: Sofia Occupation: interpreter and translator Age: 56	#21826 07-06-2008 GMT-5 hours
	XRadar, you do, naturally, know that the 600's rear fuselage is the same as that of the A310 and not the same as that of earlier A300s. It is a bit longer and fatter, tapers a tad more sharply than earlier A300s, and has room for 10/12-odd pax more than early A300s. Hence the minor difference in length between the B4-200 and the B4-600 (as they are formally known per Scotty's post). Taliplanes are also the same as the A310 (a deal smaller), as are tailplane/fuselage scuff plates (smaller), and the wing has no outboard ailerons at all. There are also powerplant differences which are beyond my recall at the moment.

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XRadar Upper Deck Member Add As Buddy Posts: 1209 Location: Occupation: Keeping the skies safe Age:	#21827 07-06-2008 GMT-5 hours
	Quote skippiebg : XRadar, you do, naturally, know that the 600's rear fuselage is the same as that of the A310 and not the same as that of earlier A300s. It is a bit longer and fatter, tapers a tad more sharply than earlier A300s, and has room for 10/12-odd pax more than early A300s. Hence the minor difference in length between the B4-200 and the B4-600 (as they are formally known per Scotty's post). See, now this is good stuff, and no, I did not know this. Some things it turns out, I am in the dark about. Sadly, without an A310 kit to bash (or even if I am willing to do so), I think I will just have to make the Airfix kit work and we can all pretend it is a 600! Keep em separated! Steve

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Bill-ay Members Add As Buddy Posts: 675 Location: DAL Occupation: student Age: 19	#21830 07-07-2008 GMT-5 hours
	I think Braz has a -600 body, but presumably that is a very hard piece of resin to acquire. Even with that, you'd need a Revell Beluga kit. If you need an A310, let me know, just pay the shippings costs and its yours. Thanks In progress: KLM 747-300 1/200 "Leonardo da Vinci"

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Seven-Two Fan Members Add As Buddy Posts: 82 Location: Here and there Occupation: This and that Age:	#21831 07-07-2008 GMT-5 hours
	I purchased the BraZ A300-600 conversion kit a while back for my American A300-600, but I wasn't all that impressed by it. So I decided to just take the Airfix kit, extend the fuselage, and then add wing root, wings, engines, etc from the Revell Beluga kit.

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XRadar Upper Deck Member Add As Buddy Posts: 1209 Location: Occupation: Keeping the skies safe Age:	#21836 07-07-2008 GMT-5 hours
	Bill, Thanks for the offer, I might take you up on it. Not for this kit though, I will just make this bird look as much like a 600 as I can, length notwithstanding. Thanks all for the help and offers of help! Keep em separated! Steve

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Jennings Contributors Add As Buddy Posts: 1964 Location: Southun' Vuhginya USA Occupation: Hospice Nurse Age: 111	#22154 07-19-2008 GMT-5 hours
	The easiest route is a Revell Beluga (which is a highly modified A300-600) bashed with an Airfix A300B2/B4. The GE engines in the Beluga work as-is for a 600R J

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DullesFlyer Upper Deck Member Add As Buddy Posts: 199 Location: Phoenix -- Maryland That Is! Occupation: DullesFlyer Age:	#22197 07-20-2008 GMT-5 hours
	How big are the spinners in the Beluga GE's. You may have to modify these right to make them larger? On Arrival (1/144 scale): EK 777-300ER KE 747-400 AC A321-200 SQ A380-800 BA 747-400

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Caravellarella Members Add As Buddy Posts: 417 Location: S.W.London/Surrey. Occupation: Royalty Accountant & Rights Manager at a Literary Agency Age: 49	#44355 09-17-2012 GMT-5 hours
	Quote skippiebg : XRadar, you do, naturally, know that the 600's rear fuselage is the same as that of the A310 and not the same as that of earlier A300s. It is a bit longer and fatter, tapers a tad more sharply than earlier A300s, and has room for 10/12-odd pax more than early A300s. Hence the minor difference in length between the B4-200 and the B4-600 (as they are formally known per Scotty's post). Taliplanes are also the same as the A310 (a deal smaller), as are tailplane/fuselage scuff plates (smaller), and the wing has no outboard ailerons at all. There are also powerplant differences which are beyond my recall at the moment. XRadar; does this help with your A300-605R? Terry (Caravellarella) Because *L�OR�AL* keeps telling me I�m worth it.......... Or maybe it�s *MAYBELLINE*...............

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Karel Members Add As Buddy Posts: 596 Location: Bahrain, UAE, UK, FR, DE... Occupation: Airpeugeot babysitter Age: 31	#44357 09-17-2012 GMT-5 hours
	Terry, That's awesome material! Do you happen to have a few maintenance drawings like the ones of the Caravelle for the A310's wings and fuselage and possibly landing gear? I am still looking for some greater reference for my A310 "project" to scribe some panel lines etc. Quality wins!

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Caravellarella Members Add As Buddy Posts: 417 Location: S.W.London/Surrey. Occupation: Royalty Accountant & Rights Manager at a Literary Agency Age: 49	#44364 09-17-2012 GMT-5 hours
	Dear Karel, the only material I can find (at the moment) is an A300-600 technical definition. Some of it is applicable to the A310 series...... Terry (Caravellarella) Because *L�OR�AL* keeps telling me I�m worth it.......... Or maybe it�s *MAYBELLINE*...............

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Karel Members Add As Buddy Posts: 596 Location: Bahrain, UAE, UK, FR, DE... Occupation: Airpeugeot babysitter Age: 31	#44366 09-17-2012 GMT-5 hours
	Quote Caravellarella : Dear Karel, the only material I can find (at the moment) is an A300-600 technical definition. Some of it is applicable to the A310 series...... Terry (Caravellarella) Dear Terry, I would be very grateful for any of that! At the moment I have a few photo books from the 80's but that's about it... Anything about the PW engines would be very usefull as well btw.. Thanks a million! BTW feel free to share with the entire community on my A310 build report thread... Quality wins!

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