> 1 <

Author Message

Bill-ay


Members

 Online status  

 
Add As Buddy
Posts: 675
Location: DAL
Occupation: student
Age: 18

#32125 04-10-2010 GMT-5 hours    
Terribly sad day for Poland; condolences to the famalies and the people.

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/polish-president-lech-kaczynski-was-killed-in-a-plane-crash-in-russia/19434298?icid=main|hp-desktop|dl1|link2|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fworld%2Farticle%2Fpolish-president-lech-kaczynski-was-killed-in-a-plane-crash-in-russia%2F19434298

In progress:

KLM 747-300 1/200 "Leonardo da Vinci"

Author Message

Exile


Upper Deck Member

 Online status  

 
Add As Buddy
Posts: 791
Location: Cannock
Occupation: RAF retired.
Age:

#32126 04-10-2010 GMT-5 hours    
Absolutely. Made all the more poignant due to the purpose of their journey - the first time the Polish president was to be present at the ceremony to commemorate the thousands of Poles murdered in the Katyn forest 70 years ago. May they all rest in peace.

Al

Author Message

Loud707


Members

 Online status  

 
Add As Buddy
Posts: 338
Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
Occupation: Sales & Marketing
Age:

#32142 04-11-2010 GMT-5 hours    
I agree. It is an overwhelming loss.

It looks like they were trying to land in fog and the pilot ignored a request to divert elsewhere after missing the runway twice.

Is this a case of pilot hubris?

Author Message

Werkur Models


Members

 Online status  

 
Add As Buddy
Posts: 193
Location: Montréal, Québec
Occupation: ramp agent
Age: 44

#32145 04-12-2010 GMT-5 hours    
Quote
Loud707 :
I agree. It is an overwhelming loss.

It looks like they were trying to land in fog and the pilot ignored a request to divert elsewhere after missing the runway twice.

Is this a case of pilot hubris?



I guess yes!

http://avherald.com/h?article=429ec5fa&opt=0

Werner Kurpjuweit, 3350 de la Côte-Sainte-Catherine Ch, Sainte Catherine, H3T1C6 Montréal, Québec, Canada
airtransat@live.com
yulaviation@hotmail.com
Air Transat TS/TSC 11 A310-300, 07 A330-200, 04 A330-300

Author Message

global707


Members

 Online status  

 
Add As Buddy
Posts: 131
Location: Southgate,Michigan
Occupation: Aircraft Dispatcher
Age: 61

#32202 04-17-2010 GMT-5 hours    
AH, Yeah it was Pilot error. First the weather was way below minimums, and he was advised to divert to Minsk or Moscow. However it is the Pilots discretion to make the final decision. After one missed approach, he should have gotten the hint.
He apparently circled three more times before the second and fateful approach. Apparently he was watching his altimeter which was set at 29.85 (sea level) and not field elevation, since he had no visual references. Evidently there was no glideslope at the airport eiether.
An ILS landing is composed of four major parts, the Localizer which is azimuth (left to right, sliding) Glideslope which is vertical movement (up and down) Marker Beacons (outer, middle, inner which are coded dots and dashes) and Visual (seeing the runway or lights) The Pilot obviously did not have a visual on the runway at the Decision Height (DH) and should have called a No Joy and went on to the alternate.
Its really too bad, and I feel pain for the victims of this tragedy.

:D

> 1 <