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#43195 05-31-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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Following the thread on the Exchange forum about how the supply of Daco 737's has pretty much dried up. Who would have thought? I remember when the Daco 1 version came out (a little after Minicraft's I believe). Then a couple of years later the Daco 2nd generation -300,-400, and -500's. Beautiful kits....no need to hang onto your Minicrafts as the Daco just raised the bar by several orders of magnitude. Well here we are in 2012 and the Daco's are darn near gone. Too bad if you didn't get one,two, or more...... Pretty sure that I read too the Minicraft -300 mold is missing as well. Buying and building model airliners is kind of like the weather. If it's great things will likely change and not for the better. If not so good things can and will improve. Still who would have thought we'd "run out" of the Daco kits? And Danny Coreman's is definitely the man in charge of the initial and hopefully re-release of the kits. Let's hope he can be convinced to do another run. If not we'll be worse off. Ken |
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#43196 05-31-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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I tried to post in that thread but I guess it took it off-topic. Sorry for that, hoping this is a better one. Is a 737-500 conversion possible from revell/minicraft kits? I can't find any information and don't see any pictures. I really don't know the a/c well enough to know. ...Hoping for good wxr |
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#43197 05-31-2012 GMT-5 hours
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The NG 737 are very different from the 737-300/400/500. Wings, tails, engines, pylons, stabilizers are all different. So, to answer your question, no you cannot use a Revell kit to make a -500 (although you could use the nose) Cut the Minicraft kit down as needed.
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#43198 05-31-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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Ninjaflight.... Recommend you check out the Airliner Modelling Digest on Yahoogroups. Kind of like a "sister" group to AirlinerCafe. There's a FAQ listed under files for conversions etc. And to keep things on topic I'm changing the subject to 737 Classic Conversions Ken To answer your question I clipped the following..... For 1/144 models, you can use the Minicraft -300 and -400 from the box (I think the -400 needs the tail bump, but that's it), or the Daco -300. For a -500, Jennings' conversion instructions for the -300 are to remove 10.5 mm forward of the wing and 7 mm aft of the wing. If you're using Daco's -300 the fuselage inner surface contains "cut-along-the-dotted- -line" markings to help you convert it into a -500. That should be it, except for the needed finish work (I don't know where the cargo doors are, though...). Laurent Fuselage Dimensions are: Dimensions: Length Wingspan Height 737-300 109'7" 33.40 m 94'9" 28.90 m 36'6" 11.1" 737-400 119'7" 36.40 m 94'9" 28.90 m 36'6" 11.1" 737-500 101'9" 31.00 m 94'9" 28.90 m 36'6" 11.1" |
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#43199 05-31-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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Adding a little more... XRadar's correct that one can't "easily" convert a Revell 737-800 into a -300,-400, or -500 model. Still if you've been around a while you've seen pretty much everything. Pretty sure I've seen a Revell kit "bashed" into a -200 model or something similar. Anything's possible but that type of conversion seems like way too much work for me. Fuselage cut, different wings, engines, and tail. A mini synopsis on 737's 737-200 Airfix kit Can be cut down to a 737-100 737-300 Minicraft or Daco kit Minicraft makes (made?) a -300 or -400. Daco had -300, -400, and -500. The longer kits (-400, -300) can be shortened to a -500. 737-800 Revell kit Can be cut down to a -700,-600 or lengthened to a -900. Cutting down the kit's isn't terribly hard. Just be good calculating and marking your cuts, use a razor saw and mitre box, and use lots of reinforcement/filling. As I said in my earlier post there's quite a lot of good information in the AMD files section for conversions. Ken |
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#43201 05-31-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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While you certainly *could* convert Revell's -800 into a -200, 300, 400, or 500, why would you? I mean, you could convert a Revell 737-800 into a 1/16 scale Sopwith Camel if you really wanted to, but you wouldn't have much Revell 737 left when you got done, would you? The basic shape of the nose, the constant dimension section of the fuselage, and the aft end (with some mods) is the same, everything else, every other piece, is different on the NGs vs earlier 737s. The entire wing/body fairing is completely different, the wing is different, the vertical fin is different, the landing gear is different, the engines and pylons are different. Seems like an awful lot of work to me.... |
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#43205 05-31-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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I ask because I don't know...and there's a wealth of knowledge here. I'll get started on my Sopwith Camel immediately. Ken, thanks for sharing your thread, I didn't mean to hijack it so my apologies for the poor forum ettiquette. I will check AMD for their files. Hopefully the discussion here will help others on this site as well. |
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#43206 06-01-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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I remember when Danny was trying to "get rid" of the last of the DACO 737 Version 1 kits. First offers were for the plastic kit, basic detail decal (without a livery) and the photoetched set. With the decal and the photoetched parts gone, he was selling just the plastic... for close to a give-away. I remember purchasing the last dozen or so "bagged" Version 1 kits he had. With shipping from Europe to the USA, I think the shipping cost more than the kits! Version 1 is really a nice kit, very accurate, well designed engines but without the petite panel lines of the Minicraft kit and the later DACO Version 2 kit. Since I'm not a big panel line person (I fill them mostly, used to sand them off), the kit is quite useable. Perhaps best of all, the Version 1 and 2 kits both are designed to fit the most excellent DACO Skyline Western Pacific decals. These decals will not fit well on the Minicraft aft fuselage. So good luck in the DACO hunt. As Ken noted in the beginning, get 'em while you can. |
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#43260 06-07-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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Is a 737-500 conversion possible from revell/minicraft kits? I can't find any information and don't see any pictures. I really don't know the a/c well enough to know. You could always buy the Daco 737-400 from Squadron.com and then chop it down into a 500. I have four of them, two for actual -400 builds, and the others for modifying into -300s and -500s if no more "real" Daco 737-300 kits are available. Both manufacturers' -400 kits can be chopped into -500 models. You just have to figure out how much to cut from each end of the fuselage. |
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#43267 06-07-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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The new Squadron catalog has the Skyline 737-400 for $35.05, item # DP14404. Gene MOB |
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#43353 06-15-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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Bringing over a quote from the exchange Quote Probably the best suggestion there is. Considering the Daco 737's were first released in 2005 (7 long years ago), why may I ask is everyone suddenly wanting them, is it just becasue it's not available, therefore we want it. If a kit comes out that you really want, then get it, buy at the best price you can get at the time, but get it then, becasue no matter who releases it, it will not be around forever no matter who the manufacturer. Graeme |
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#43359 06-16-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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I seem to remember Danny having a hard time getting his 737s to sell. Part of that may have been the cost, though that should be expected. Danny is a one man operation, and could not compete on cost like a Revel or Minicraft. Of course, he knew that upfront, but he could compete on design and quality. If we all had purchased more kits then, it may have encouraged him to reissue or produce new kits. I'm not chastising anyone for not buying. I never bought any myself, due to cost, though I do have some of his older black-boxed ones. I hope he does find a way to produce and sell more, but given the monumental effort required, I understand if he chooses to stick with the decal end of his business.
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#43381 06-18-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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I don't think it's a case of everyone now just wanting a DACO 737 now but just surprised that they are "gone". I for one think of modern injection molded kits being pretty much available "forever". I know that there are many exceptions but for the "standard" jets it does seem to be the case. Want an Airfix 737 or 727, Revell 747, A320, or 737-800? They are almost always on the shelves and if out of production wait a little while and they'll get re-popped eventually. I thought of the DACO/Skyline 737 in the same category. Quality/detail actually better than the kits I mentioned above. Price/quality ratio very good. First production run darn near sold out.....Hoping for another run but no guarantees. Yikes! Ken |
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#43667 07-18-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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Something I'm missing are these kits discontinued ? according to there web site no information that they are and seems the 737-300 is still listed |
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#43672 07-18-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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I think if you go to the products page which has a date of Oct 2011 it shows as available, but the 737 specific page, shows STOCK status SKY144-03a sold out @ DACO anno April 2012 SKY144-04a less than 15 . SKY144-05a sold out @ DACO So as of April there was less than 15 737-400's left, and what Danny has said is that the last of the 737-400 has now gone, but the website not updated to show that Reality is that ebay or similar is the only way now. Graeme |
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#43679 07-19-2012 GMT-5 hours |
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i have a full model kit if your interested
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