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      Post #11250, posted on 06-13-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Just launched my paypal payment for two sets of Laurent's gorgeous-looking IL-86 fans, whose test shot photos I got via email from him today. Yummy. You got the kit? Get these fans. You simply can't be seen building this thing with the ones in the box. They'll hang you with fish hooks at IPMS a la Ichi the Killer if they catch those flat featureless disks in your nacelles.

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      Post #11251, posted on 06-13-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Thank you Rick. I thought I'd deliver them to those who accepted to test them before advertising them here, but since you let the cat out of the box, here's the picture.



      Wait until you've them in your hands!

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      Post #11253, posted on 06-13-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello,
      I want to buy 1 Sets, what will they cost and how much is the shipping to Germany? what is the paypal adresse?

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      Marcel

      Mailto: TWUMM@T-Online.de

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      Post #11255, posted on 06-13-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Zvezda forgot the Russian flag on the tail in their decal sheet. I have some unused ones printed for my Yak-42 kit and the size is about right. I will include them with the inlets.

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      Post #11258, posted on 06-13-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Zvezda forgot the Aeroflot decals from what I've seen. If the image I saw is the actual decal sheet in the kit (which it appeared to be), then they screwed it up from stem to stern. That's why I've re-done the artwork with correct titles, etc. It will have Russian and Soviet flags and registrations, never fear.

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      Post #11259, posted on 06-13-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Jennings:

      How nice.

      When?

      And how close are we to some of those other liveries?

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      Post #11280, posted on 06-14-2006 GMT-5 hours    
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      Zvezda forgot the Aeroflot decals from what I've seen. If the image I saw is the actual decal sheet in the kit (which it appeared to be), then they screwed it up from stem to stern.

      In actual fact, the kit decals are correct for the chosen subject. It's why they chose that particular one that is the mystery.

      http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0932709/L/

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      Post #11310, posted on 06-16-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      @Laurent:
      I´m interested in two sets of your fan disks. Where/when can I order them and how much will they cost?

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      Post #11312, posted on 06-16-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      I stand corrected. So they did correct decals for the one airplane (out of hundreds) that carried current SU titles. My decals await the arrival of 3D plastic so I can fit everything. Just as soon as I get plastic I will get the decals finished up and the artwork to Philippe at F-Dcal. I don't have a date (haven't had one in ages, so if you know any eligible candidates...), but just as soon as I know more, trust me, I'll post it here.

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      Post #11318, posted on 06-16-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Jennings

      Do you consider some other liveries?

      URAL is my favorite for the Il 86

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      Post #11345, posted on 06-18-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      To all who ordered the inlets (thank you!): I should be able to collect them tomorrow (although it means I'll have to escape from work for a couple of hours), and ship them tomorrow or Tuesday.

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      Post #11346, posted on 06-18-2006 GMT-5 hours    
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      Jennings

      Do you consider some other liveries?

      URAL is my favorite for the Il 86

      GŽrard



      It has already been announced by someone else (although I haven't seen any evidence yet).

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      Post #11365, posted on 06-19-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi,

      How do I go about placing an order and paying for 2 sets of these??

      Andrew

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      Post #11408, posted on 06-22-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Received with thanks!

      A nice 5 x 1cm (2 x 1/2 in) "frame" with four extremely fine fan-and-inlet-vane assemblies. In feel, the photosensitive resin is midway between polystyrene and nylon. In look, it is like semitranslucent nylon (off-white to yellowish cream), with the silky-smooth surface of extra-finely ground Venetian glass. By looking at the parts, one cannot tell by what process they were made; in fact, more than anything, they appear organic in their elegant fragility -- like something that intelligent bees may manufacture. The parts are featherlight and fit the IL-86 nacelles superbly.

      The finesse of the resulting fan/hub/inlet vanes cannot be surpassed by injection moulding. The fan blades overlap, for one (!), and the miniature gap between them and the vanes (1.5mm or 1/16th inch-ish) is so small, any combination of injection moulded parts would have been compromised (wall thickness and fitting flanges all eating into shape fidelity).

      In short, the parts are positively poetic!

      Now, one problem! How to paint them so as to do them justice. Detail is _so_ fine, the merest smear of excess paint risks defacing it...

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      Post #11414, posted on 06-22-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Thank you Skippie for your comments.

      There are still 9 sets left from the first production batch. I will have more produced if there is enough demand but I am looking for a cheaper supplier who can achieve the same quality. If I can't find one I will have to increase the price - at EUR 15 I am not breaking even.

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      Post #11425, posted on 06-23-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Only six sets left from the first production run. I will deliver on a first come, first served basis.

      The next production runs may not happen soon and prices may have to be raised. I will post a message when the initial batch is sold out anyway.

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      Laurent

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      Post #11429, posted on 06-23-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Only one left!

      Laurent

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      Post #11431, posted on 06-23-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      None left! Thank you all for your confidence in the product.

      I'll let you know when they become available again.

      Laurent

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      Post #11486, posted on 06-27-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Dear Laurent, consider that you may have set new precedents here........

      You should bear in mind that the following engines all have a similar arrangement of inlet guide vanes in front of a low by-pass ratio fan or 1st compressor stage.......

      Pratt & Whitney JT8D - Boeing 727, Douglas DC-9, Mercure & Boeing 737.

      Pratt & Whitney JT3D - Boeing 720B & 707B, Douglas DC-8-50/60, C-141.

      Rolls Royce Conway - Boeing 707-400, Douglas DC-8-40 & VC10......

      Rolls Royce Avon - Sud Caravelle & DH Comet; in this case the vanes are tangential rather than radial.......


      Do you think there is a market for more tiny little stereolithography engine fronts too?

      Best, Terry (Caravellarella).

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      Or maybe it’s MAYBELLINE...............

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      Post #11488, posted on 06-27-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      The engines fitted to Il-62s also hve them. Am I right to say that Zvesda might be making a Il-62 sometime?

      On the go:
      Heller 1.72 Connie Pan Am
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      Post #11490, posted on 06-27-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Terry:

      Not only do I think there'd be a market, but if Laurent could do the same detailed wonders with the visible cyclinders and so forth on the Connie, Stratocruiser, DC-3, 4 and 6 kits - oh boy. I'd violate my 10K CD's to pull out the cash for them (drool).

      These disks are wonderful. Any popular jetliner - even the comparatively very good Minicraft DC8 engines - would benefit from these.

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      Post #11493, posted on 06-27-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Rick, I haven't collected my set of Il-86 intakes yet, but I agree that there is a market out there for fabulous new detailed wonders..............

      I wonder if it is possible to stereolithograph other detailed components; undercarriage legs and exhaust silencers/mixers for example............

      Best, Terry (Caravellarella).

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      Or maybe it’s MAYBELLINE...............

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      Post #11495, posted on 06-27-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello Laurent,
      The IL-86 is now available on e-bay and I got one ! but I need those intakes, please advise on how to get one set of four.

      Thanks, Cesar.

      All the best,
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      Post #11496, posted on 06-27-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      And let us not forget cascade type thrust reversers as fitted to VC10s, 727s, Il-86s, Il-62s (early), etc. Those have NEVER been done correctly on a model simply because they'd be so hard to mold. The VC-10 has a grille set down in a rectangular hole.

      Those things positively SCREAM to be done using stereo lithography!

      Hello, Laurent!? You listening??

      J

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      Post #11497, posted on 06-28-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      I believe herpa premium did the 27 cascade reversers ,nice Pan Am and United 27,s .regards al

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      Post #11502, posted on 06-28-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      I have a Modell Edition 727-100 in Lufthansa livery, it is true that they reproduced the cascade reverser grilles very cleverly.

      Regards, Stéphane

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      Post #11503, posted on 06-28-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Yes, many cascade reverers have far more complexity and intrigue than a chequered decal can ever provide.

      Even with 1960s technology, they could have been moulded as separate components (two basically semi-cyllindrical pieces per engine, with holes through which these semi-cylliners should be inserted into the nacelles [after first being assembled as cyllinders]).

      Cutting reversers for my VC10s and Tu-154Bs has always been a pig of a job that I could never do neatly or -- more to the point -- uniformly.

      I suppose, however, that what is really needed are both reversers and nacelle halves. Otherwise we are back if not to Square One, then to its near environs -- cutting the holes in the nacelle halves is actually more of a pig than detailing the reverser grilles.

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      Post #11506, posted on 06-28-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Yes Jennings and Cesar, I am listening. Cesar, I'll announce the new batch of inlets when it is produced - as I said I am looking for a cheaper supplier.

      As to other subjects - well, you suggested many, but what do you want first?

      Laurent

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      Post #11511, posted on 06-28-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Dear Laurent, just out of interest; can you stereolithograph a centre-engine "S-duct" intake? The Boeing 727 & Lockheed TriStar both spring to mind as obvious candidates.........

      Why does your emoticon rotate?

      Best, Terry (Caravellarella).

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      Or maybe it’s MAYBELLINE...............

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      Post #11515, posted on 06-28-2006 GMT-5 hours    
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      I believe herpa premium did the 27 cascade reversers ,nice Pan Am and United 27,s .regards al



      Sorry, I meant a real model (kit), not a die cast toy

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      Post #11517, posted on 06-29-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      I know jennings i was just pulling ur leg .al

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      Post #12885, posted on 10-01-2006 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello,
      I want to buy 1 Sets, what will they cost and how much is the shipping to the USA? what is the paypal adresse?

      Regards
      Cesar

      Please advise to:cesar1111@msn.com

      All the best,
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