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      Post #54711, posted on 10-01-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      I know there have been several threads about this kit on Airlinercafe, but they leave me puzzled. I'm building one of Minicraft's 757's at the moment and I keep thinking 'well, it's not THAT bad, is it?'

      I compared the kit to the beautiful Authentic Airliners 757 of which I can safely assume it's accurate. The wing/body fairing, the part where a lot of airliner kits go wrong, looks identical on both kits.

      Could you help me expand this list? And please, no comments like 'take a look and you'll see it'. No, I don't see it! I'm especially talking about accuracy issues. Bad fitting of parts has never been such a problem to me, to be honest. I'd prefer an accurate badly fitting model above a beautifully moulded inaccurate model!

      - Top of tail should be level instead of inclined (very fixable)
      - Very thick trailing edges (fixable)
      - Nose gear attaches in a weird backward angle (very fixable)
      - Main wheel bays are too large (fixable)
      - Nose area profile is a little off above the windshield (fixable)
      - Landing gear is a bit crude in detail and poorly moulded, but it looks quite OK after some attention.
      - Very bad fitting of parts, especially the wings (fixable, we're modelers right??)
      - Okay, the engines. They are actually horrible. I'm replacing them with the second set of engines from the AA kit!

      So, what exactly are the reasons people condemn this kit so much, even before Kurt's AA kit came out? Or are airliner modelers a bit lazy and spoiled?

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      Post #54712, posted on 10-01-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      I shall leave subjective and fixable issues out of my answer. Thus, I cannot agree that the nose is only slightly off. It is very swollen above the radome and needs much subtle resculpting to give it the elegant 757's features.

      Put simply, _the_ problem with the Minicraft 757 is this: once assembled, it looks twisted. Half the landing gear cannot touch the base. The wing is at an angle to the body when looked-at from the front. Most likely, the wing halves' mounting slots are at subtly different heights left and right. The main landing gear fittings also seem to be at slightly different heights left and right.

      A fix I once read involves cutting the tailcone and nose and glueing them back on at a slight angle to take the edge off the skew. This seems quite dubious to me, and leaves the main problem untouched. To really fix things, you need to make sturdy cardboard or plastic jigs and do an awful lot of rigging work. And there is still no guarantee things will look 'square' once you are done.

      In fairness, any vacform potentially has the self-same problems of aligning left and right.

      Twenty-odd years ago, Minicraft raided the 1/144 model airliner kits and filled many of the gaping holes in the market. This was warmly wlcomed at the time, warts-and-all. The problem is, they did much of this in a quick'n'dirty manner, which is why today (after one owner has sold the company and a second one has sadly died), they find themselves subject to so much shrill criticism. They did rise to some remarkable highs, such as the workmanlike MD-80 and the superb DC-8 and DC-4.

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      Post #54713, posted on 10-01-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks for your answer Skippie! Interesting issue with the asymmetrical wing mounts. I have built an MC 757 before but I didn't have the problem you describe. I will have a look at my in-progress build to see if I can spot it.

      Yes I finally obtained one of the praised MD-80's last week (thanks Radioguy!!) and it looks very good. Of course I can see the difference between both kits.


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      Post #54714, posted on 10-01-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi all,

      In addition to what's been posted, here is what I found several years ago:

      -The fairings where the wings attach don’t match, with one wing sitting higher than the other, so the model will not sit straight on its landing gear.

      -The airfoil of the right wing at the fuselage joint is 1mm thicker than the left one. Also contributes to landing gear problem in above point.

      -According to a couple of internet sources, Minicraft’s fuselage is 5mm too long aft of the wing. Assuming Welsh’s drawings are accurate, the leading edge of the Minicraft kit’s tail starts the correct distance from the tip of the nose, and the trailing edge hits the correct distance from the aft tip of the fuselage, so the tail ends up being 5mm too broad in chord.

      -The engines point up at an angle when attached to the wing.

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      Post #54715, posted on 10-01-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Guys although I have limited experience in model... just about 14 years I am still learning... I guess the best way to deal with the inaccuracies is to collect lots o close up pics of the aircraft and build or upgrade it just like the pics infront of you..I normally do that with the Revell 737s and 767s, MC Md80s.. the good thing with plastic is you can enhance your work.... I did an EE 757-300 and the wing assembly was horrible even though i glued the top half to the lower half, there were spaces between the wing edges at the rear..lining the fuselage was stress, one side was slightly bent so i had to do some bending wit a pliers to put it back in shape after two years of assembly I decided to scrape the wings,use MC wings cut them to make flaps and add a winglet to the wing..The best thing I would suggest with the landing gear is to use metal landing gears... Yes I found a company that makes them..