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      Post #68248, posted on 09-25-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      My Aurora 747 kit got me thinking....

      Would the 747 be the type with the greatest # of misshapen kits produced for it?

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      I can think of many other airliners with one or two kits that are "sketchy" but the 747 with five is an "impressive" type.

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      Post #68249, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Add to your list:

      Doyusha (possibly the worst of the lot)
      Revell -400
      Heller 1/125

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      Post #68250, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I think the 747 will win, no doubt, simply because it was the Jumbo Jet and almost every kit manufacturer had to have it one way or another.

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      Post #68252, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I think the 707 is up there as well:

      Revell
      Aurora
      Minicraft
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      Etc.

      The Entex/Nitto/etc. 1:100 and the Authentic Airliners in 1:144 are the only two that can be build OOB without major changes. The Heller one is ok, minus the nose.

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      Post #68253, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I'd add the Minicraft 757. The nose is completely wrong and the way the wings hit the fuselage makes the whole thing lopsided...

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      Post #68255, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      The 1:288 747 is the most accidentally adorable kit of that aircraft I've seen, because it looks like somebody grafted an egg onto the forward fuselage. As a model it doesn't work at all, but it looks so adorably goofy that you can't stay angry at it. The frightened-cat look of the 1:144 Entex kit, though...that's nightmare fuel.

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      Post #68258, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      The Minicraft Electra and DC-3.
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      Post #68259, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Aurora CV-880 and CV-990. Slab sides and all.

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      Post #68260, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      The Doyosha 1/200 DC-8-61 is pretty darn hideous

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      Post #68261, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I love Jodie's comments about the Entex 1/44 and Academy 1/288 747 kits. Yep......they look WAY OFF :-)

      For many kits looking at them closely one can find things off. For the 747's I mentioned even from a distance I think "oooff"...

      I find the Minicraft DC-3 an anomaly....From a distance there's no mistaking its a DC-3 and nothing glaring stands out to me. Don't try to spin the props though or they'll hit the fuselage so something is definitely off.

      All of the 1/144 707 kits look like 707's from a distance.

      The Electra deserves mention as the Minicraft kit shapes are pretty poor and the Revell engine/props are pretty poor as well. Yea the Revell kit is a really old kit but my reaction at the engines/props is still "Ewwww....."


      So for the one aircraft type with the most bad kits I still think it is the 747.

      Ken




      The 1:288 747 is the most accidentally adorable kit of that aircraft I've seen, because it looks like somebody grafted an egg onto the forward fuselage. As a model it doesn't work at all, but it looks so adorably goofy that you can't stay angry at it. The frightened-cat look of the 1:144 Entex kit, though...that's nightmare fuel.

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      Post #68263, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      OTOH, in 2017, almost 45 years after it came out, the Nitto/Entex/Otaki/Doyusha 1/100 707-320C is still the best injection molded kit of the 707 (bar none), and one of the most accurate airliner kits period. It's a joy to behold.

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      Post #68265, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I agree with J on the 1/100 707...pure beauty!

      I would have to go in the record to say that the Aurora/Monogram DC-10 should have some high (not good) status here. I believe it was designed with reference to some of the early MDD concept drawings. Their 737 also looked like Boeing's concept drawings...

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      Post #68266, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      So the Aurora 737 looks like early Boeing drawings....I can believe that for the short engines and chunky fuselage but....

      How about the non existent flap track fairings??

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      Post #68268, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      OTOH, in 2017, almost 45 years after it came out, the Nitto/Entex/Otaki/Doyusha 1/100 707-320C is still the best injection molded kit of the 707 (bar none), and one of the most accurate airliner kits period. It's a joy to behold. I agree completely


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      Post #68270, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      I would have to go in the record to say that the Aurora/Monogram DC-10 should have some high (not good) status here. I believe it was designed with reference to some of the early MDD concept drawings. Their 737 also looked like Boeing's concept drawings...



      In Terry Waddington's "Great Airliners" book about the DC-10 there's a MDC concept rendering showing a DC-10 in the revised American "lightning bolt" colors, and it had the same goofy shape the Aurora/Monogram kit has. Early manufacturer models also had that shape (there's a picture of Capt. Bryce McCormick at a press conference using one to illustrate what happened to American 96). Of course, when the real DC-10 made its debut, it had some significant shape changes. My guess is that Aurora wanted to beat the other companies to the market, and this is what we got. It's not much of a DC-10 model, but it has its own very real relationship to the DC-10 story, and I have a place in my heart for it (and also because of a story I told in another thread).

      With Revell, it's weird: its TriStar looks little like the real aircraft but its shape is a match for the early models and drawings that came from Lockheed. Meanwhile, its 747-100 is a darn good representation of the actual aircraft, and aside from the misshapen nose/cockpit the Revell DC-10 matches the lines of the real aircraft very well too. I don't know if the TriStar was a victim of not getting much help from Lockheed, or if Revell wanted to be first with a kit and thus went with the early data. Either way, it's another artifact in this wonderful realm we enjoy.

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      Post #68281, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      The Aurora 707 gets my vote. Looking back how, it seemed to be based on the Dash 80, with its Day-The-Earth-Stood-Still nose. I built a few of these (taking all of a day and a half) AA, PAA, and TWA come to mind, but I don't know if the later Aurora '720' was the same mold since I had moved on to Airfix and Revell kits by the time it came out.

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      Post #68283, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Ken,

      My Monogram kit has the canoe fairings (albeit a bit small to scale) but you are right...the engine pylons were devoid of the pointy flap track fairing on the aft end. About 15 years ago, I built the kit in PSA colors to replicate the Aurora kit that I had built as a kid (with a few improvements). I ended up scratch building the pylons, but it has been so many years since I built it, that I forgot all about that.

      You are correct that all but the very, very early 737 concept models/drawings show that fairing. Thanks for the correction:-)

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      Post #68297, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Don't forget the airFIX L-1011. Especially the wings.
      It has a sturdy set of landing gear though!

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      Post #68299, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I would put the B727 on the list, we have AA, Heller, Airfix, Revell, Aurora, Entex and Minicraft. They all have problems with exception of the AA kit which I have never seen in person but will assume it is flawless. Aurora and Heller the worst of the bunch.

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      Post #68302, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Years ago, I was talking with one of my customers who had worked at Boeing during the time the 737 project was under way. He said that he actually met with a few designers from Aurora who had come to look at the 737 wood mock up. He said the guys from Aurora measured, photographed and sketched every part of the mock up for the new kit they were planning to release. Problem was, Boeing made numerous changes between the wood mock up and final aircraft. Looks like Aurora was again trying to be first, but missed the mark.

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      Post #68305, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Not the first ones to do that.

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      Post #68308, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      You can add the horrid Kepuyan kits to the 747 list...

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      Post #68323, posted on 10-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      I think the 707 is up there as well:

      Revell
      Aurora
      Minicraft
      Airfix
      Etc.

      The Entex/Nitto/etc. 1:100 and the Authentic Airliners in 1:144 are the only two that can be build OOB without major changes. The Heller one is ok, minus the nose.



      As for "most misshapen" 707 kits, Aurora and Airfix definitely qualify. OTOH I would not include the Revell and Minicraft kits in this category; aside from the windscreen area (which can be vastly improved with relative ease) one can build a -120/B (Revell) or -320/B/C or -420 (Minicraft) of reasonably accurate appearance from kits that go together in a straightforward manner...IMHO, of course. Cannot say the same for the Aurora and Airfix kits.

      Also, aside from the Revell 707/AWACS kit, how'ya gonna build a -120 or -120B?

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      Post #68329, posted on 10-02-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Tango-Bravo :
      As for "most misshapen" 707 kits, Aurora and Airfix definitely qualify. OTOH I would not include the Revell and Minicraft kits in this category; aside from the windscreen area (which can be vastly improved with relative ease) one can build a -120/B (Revell) or -320/B/C or -420 (Minicraft) of reasonably accurate appearance from kits that go together in a straightforward manner...IMHO, of course. Cannot say the same for the Aurora and Airfix kits.

      Also, aside from the Revell 707/AWACS kit, how'ya gonna build a -120 or -120B?

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      The MC kit looks like a 707 from a distance, but a lot of the sweep angles are off, and it's tough to fix that. As to how I would build a 120B, I'd buy a Roden 720B, use a spare set of AA engines, and lengthen the fuselage. a straight 120 would be tougher with the glove.

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      Post #68331, posted on 10-02-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I believe that the Entex, Doyusha, and Kepuyan 1/144 747 kits are all from the same misshapen mold. Just one bad kit and not three :-)

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      You can add the horrid Kepuyan kits to the 747 list...
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