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Post #69079, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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...is going to materialize into a design crime, somehow neither unexpectedly nor surprisingly.  Lets hope this is not the final word or that a petition is able to stop them repainting their planes into a copy of JOON. D-ABYA and D-AISQ are currently in the paint shop. Source: http://caixapretadasolange.blogspot.de/2018/01/plantao-caixa-preta_17.html Someone who likes it? Cheers, Christian Christian Klepp |
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Post #69080, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Post #69082, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Here's another link. Looks somewhat different from design above ....but not better!  http://www.frankfurtflyer.de/lufthansa-flugzeuge-bekommen-ein-neues-design/ However...the new livery will be presented on February 7th. I heard rumors about a new livery when the A350 was delivered but at that time ALL TOP SECRET! Sven |
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Post #69083, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Eeewwwwww. Beginning to look like everybody else. I really like the retro liveries.
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Post #69084, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Sven, the images on frankfurtflyer page are fictional and will not be the new livery. I still have the ever so slight hope that the one discussed on airliners.net posted here is also not the final one. Christian. Christian Klepp |
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Post #69085, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Let's see what's happens but after the Germanwings and MyAustrian design's, I don't expect too much  Marco |
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Post #69086, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Another sin of the present LH management. How can they kill the LH yellow, part of their brand mark? But that fits snuggle to what happens in Germany at all. Good by Germany! Kurt |
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Post #69087, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Exactly what I was going to say. It needs to have yellow somewhere, preferably on the tail with the crane.
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Post #69088, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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...and yet 90% of the people who will board those aircraft will never notice much, or really care. We pay attention because we're enthusiasts, but the average traveler is more concerned that the plane's on time and gets them safely where they want to go. I also predict that whatever the livery change, the shock and disappointment will wear off, you'll eventually see decals printed and models built, and we will adapt, as has happened countless times before. If this is indeed the new Lufthansa livery, it's not what I would have done with it, but I have also seen liveries a lot worse than this. Jodie Peeler "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake." - Sayre's Law |
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Post #69089, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Yeah, I'm pretty concerned about this, looks ugly IMHO. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I always thought the yellow did a good job of making the livery look a bit warmer in contrast to the blue and gray. This looks boring and corporate.
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Post #69091, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Here's my idea. What do you think? 
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Post #69092, posted on 01-18-2018 GMT-5 hours
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I like it, but I would do away with the tail logo as well. Who's going to see it? The titles are ok, because some people might notice it as they are boarding.
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Post #69099, posted on 01-19-2018 GMT-5 hours
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That's what I call corporate identity! Brilliant! Perfectly in line with the old Sun Express livery, Swiss, Austrian, ... Now I'd only wish Germannwings and Eurowings would adopt this style as well! The tail logo stands out too brightly though. Its too aggressive. A light grey Kranich would be very business-like) Christian Christian Klepp |
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Post #69102, posted on 01-19-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Post #69104, posted on 01-19-2018 GMT-5 hours
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I love the way it blends in with every other livery! Brilliant!! Chris "Sorry Goose... But it's time to buzz the Tower." |
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Post #69106, posted on 01-19-2018 GMT-5 hours
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But the yellow would be missed
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Post #69107, posted on 01-19-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Quote Yeah, I like that idea, white engines sounds good. Also, in addition to the logo on the tail, get rid of the titles on the fuselage as well. Just put small 'Lufthansa' titles in light grey, right above the L1 door or to the right of the door so passengers can see it as they enter. Just to make sure they are boarding the right airline. That's it! It will be an awesome, futuristic, revolutionary livery. Regards, |
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Post #69108, posted on 01-19-2018 GMT-5 hours
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As this will be the ultimate eurowhite, may-be also replace the small German flag with an EU one? Best regards, Pieter |
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Post #69110, posted on 01-20-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Quote Yep! As I told it's still all top secret, even for employees. At the moment everything is just speculation. The new livery will be officially launched on February 7th. In the radio news they said 1 hour ago the fuselage will be more blue and Lufthansa changed the logo. That means hopefully not GOODBYE, CRANE! *)The Crane is a brand. As the Pan Am globe! Pan Am is (unfortunatelly) gone long ago, but the logo is still well known. Let's wait and see...what customers will say! Customer opinions prompted British Airways to abandon its World Scheme. Another example: Condor. When taken over by James Cook Condor titles disappeared. There were massive customer complaints and James Cook responded. That's how I can't agree Jodies opinion completely. I believe, Customers are well aware of a brand. Many customers prefer Lufthansa and book very consciously and do not want another airline. Maybe it's different within the U.S. where there is mainly domestic air traffic with greater competition. Quote Meaningless, trivial, sterile, boring ...  Don't like it! INTERFLUG's "new and last" livery was in the same boring style. *) That's great! Employees get more information about public media than inside the company! |
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Quote Couldn't agree more, Kurt! Political correctness happens everywhere..... Goodbye Europe as we know it..... - Harry B. |
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Post #69112, posted on 01-20-2018 GMT-5 hours
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According to Spiegel news the crane logo sees minor changes, the fuselage receives more blue and the titles style will change. That may imply that the suggested picture may not be the final word.
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Post #69118, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Hehehe....nice one Jennings👍. Erik Geicke |
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Post #69119, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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It is so funny. Like a new announved model kit. Bashing is on the way, but no one saw it yet. :-) I will wait untill I see it with my own eyes. A Lufthansa friend of mine told me, they were called by internal news to prepare of loosing the yellow. So this seems to be a fact. On the other hand: I am still a fan of cheatlines. I never (!) liked the currant LH-colours even 10 models of mine have them. :-( So I am really looking forward of what will come. For me almost everything will be better.... If it is Jennings ideas, I will be frustrated of course. But the other drawings, like Rays A350, are not that bad IMHO. I got used to the new AA colours (still looking for AA B787-9 decals, by the way)and others. So at leased, we will get used to the new LH livery one day. The last ones were for 30 years, so probably these will be the last LH colours I will see in my life.... :-) In "Spiegel" they wrote, at Frebruary, the 7th, we will know more - presentation of a B747-8I in new colours. Sure we will get a Revell one, I bet. :-) Have fun! Take it easy. :-) Uwe |
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Post #69120, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Quote Amen! Clearly, the moral of American Airlines' momentous crime of ditching a timeless design classic in favour of a Walmart-special-offer cheapo shower curtain designed by special-needs children has not sunk in! --- As to Lufthansa's corporate identity, after seven recent (Oct-Nov 2017) sectors in, er-r-r... ostensibly their aircraft (well, the flight numbers were theirs...) but, uhh-h-h... maybe not... who knows... mostly domestic German ones, I'd say it is diluted beyond any recognition already in the short//medium range market. A Heathrow-Dortmund flight was operaged by Eurowings -- a weirdly bland and lacklustre faceless affair that makes Eurotrash music appear to be ebdowed with philosophical meaning, substance, and gravitas. Inside Germany, we never knew if we were going to be German Wings-ed or Eurotrash Wing-ed, but not once were we actually Lufthansa-ed. There followed an Istanbul flight, again by Eurodrab Wings. Overall grades: 5 out of 10 for service, friendliness and cleanliness (I'd rate North Korean GULag Airlines a tad better), 2 out of 10 for catering (Turkish invaribly make the top grade here), and about -217 out of 10 for corporate identity building! A new livery would just about finish the magnificent job which began with entrusting short and medium haul services to Pol Pot Airlines! |
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Post #69121, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Uwe, right as you are it may also not matter much in the future which colors Lufthansa will fly. We simply wont see them often anymore, now that Lufthansa transfers even a bulk of their long-range fleet to Eurowings, and that is just the beginning.  Lufthansa's A340 D-AIGY is the first to receive Eurowings color. With Air Berlin being gone from the skies and Germanwings being integrated into Eurowings (massive repainting has started) the future is clearly Eurowings instead of Lufthansa. This becomes very clear already these days when spotting in Hamburg. Out of 10 planes arriving in Hamburg 7 are Eurowings and 1 is Lufthansa, 1 Ryanair, 1 EasyJet. Somehow, in fact Eurowings will be the new Lufthansa. Cheers, Christian Christian Klepp |
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Quote Long range too? Things are a lot worse than I thought... Forget the livery. Prepare to witness the suicide of a world-leading brand in favour of something that has all the visual appeal of an own-label boudoir toiletries line exclusive to a small chain of budget supermarkets in upper Ruritania and all the brand recognition of those flaky fruit-and-nut bars that one byus in out-of-the-way petrol station, only to find that they should have been sold by June 2011... I'd understand it if someone like Emperor Bokassa Airways had decided to effectively shelve their brand, but why is Lufthansa doing it? Why? WHY??? |
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Post #69123, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Simply because flying in disguise of a low cost carrier saves a lot of money. Eurowings pilots, cabin and ground stuff earn a lot less but do the same job as they did for Lufthansa. Also, you dont need to provide service onboard anymore. Maximizing profit of a company on the back of peoples income and job safety. Christian Klepp |
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Post #69125, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Quote How sad! But worse, ultimately it amounts to cutting off the tree branch on which they are standing. Lufthansa is a leading world brand. Eurowings, on the other hand, could be a 1974 Eurovision Song Contest entry. The whole sad saga proves how right Raymond Loewy was about visible/extyernal corporate identity reflecting hidden/internal corporate culture, no matter how managements try to pretend to be something they are not. In pretending to be a cheap no-brand airline, Lufthansa has, in effect, decided to disappear. Adieu und Abschied, then, Lufty! Es war schön dich zu kennen... |
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Post #69133, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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If only the logo would be in traditional LH logo, it would be OK. Are the wings still white?
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Post #69135, posted on 01-21-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Sad state of the airline industry? But wait, airline profits are at an all-time high with all the ridiculous fees they are charging, so it can't be that. If an airline is losing money these days the only folks to blame are the management and no one else. Poor management can drive any company to the ground, regardless of how much money it's bringing in. The days of the cheatline are long gone, and more and more airlines are moving toward a simplified scheme. Look at what China Eastern did, and they had the guts to call it an "improvement". Regards, |
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Post #69136, posted on 01-22-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Now its confirmed, the tail will look similar to the initial picture posted. The white Kranich will be smaller compared to the illustration above and will sit way lower. It can be seen peeking through the taped tail of the new A350 MSN 202 D-AIXI sitting in Toulouse:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalairliners/28041706709/ Cheers, Christian Christian Klepp |
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Post #69138, posted on 01-22-2018 GMT-5 hours
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So far only one signatory (yours truly) to the petition against the new livery. Do feel free to sign..! https://www.thepetitionsite.com/en-gb/takeaction/772/332/495/?cid=headerClick |
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Post #69139, posted on 01-22-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Now there are two!!!!
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Post #69140, posted on 01-22-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Done.
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Post #69141, posted on 01-22-2018 GMT-5 hours
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I don't recline a new livery in general. As far it is an attratctive new livery. I recline the disappearance of LH Yellow! Ferrari would never think of giving up their famous red, IKEA its swedish-stylish yellow-blue or TELEKOM its magenta! Those colors are wellknown brands. Trademarks. I clicked the petition link, the page appeared but after 1 or 2 seconds I've been redirected to another page with a little sweet cat which says: "Oh no! I can't find that page." and an error message: Page not found (error 404) It would be very interesting to print out your remarks here in the forum and put them on our info-board! I think your comments accurately reflect public opinion! Sven |
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Post #69143, posted on 01-22-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Yellow has been a part of the LH scheme since its re-start after WWII. To see this colour vanish from the corporate identity is like ditching the red maple leaf with Air Canada or the blue crown of KLM. Is it because a bean counter says a two colour plane is X Euros per m^2 while a 3 colour plane is X+Y Euro per m^2? But a stated in an earlier post, 99% of passengers want a safe, on-time flight and whether the plane is white, grey or purple, to them it doesn't matter.
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Post #69144, posted on 01-23-2018 GMT-5 hours
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I need a decal of the barcode scheme. Please provide titles for all airlines! Should still be a small sheet.
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Post #69156, posted on 01-24-2018 GMT-5 hours
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I guess I must be in the minority as I think it looks smart despite having no yellow 
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Post #69158, posted on 01-24-2018 GMT-5 hours
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#explorethenew https://www.explorethenew.com/de/de We will see on February 7th! Lufthansa celebrates 100th anniversary of its crane this year! *) After 100 years, should the crane fade and lose its color? *) When asked about responsibilities during the Nazi era, Lufthansa states: "We have been around since 1953, we are the "new" Lufthansa. We have nothing to do with the years 1933-1945." Do the 12 years count - yes or no? If 100th anniversary, then the whole 100 years. This note only by the way... Sven |
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Post #69185, posted on 01-26-2018 GMT-5 hours
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The new livery is the one that I posted on the A350
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Post #69186, posted on 01-26-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Kind of thoughtless and boring with the wrap around under the tail, how unoriginal. Surely, German engineering and design could have come up with something better. Very disappointing ! |
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Post #69187, posted on 01-26-2018 GMT-5 hours
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Perhaps the doors should be solid yellow with a yellow outline? And maybe give it a bare-metal belly? 
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Post #69188, posted on 01-26-2018 GMT-5 hours
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To say it with Trump's words: "That's are FAKE NEWS!" |