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      Post #69388, posted on 02-13-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I was wondering about the practicality of using the fuselage section of the cargo version of the Zvezda 747/8 as a 747-200 fuselage. The nose shape is outstanding....but I wonder about the other cuts that would be required. Has anybody gone down this road? If anyone has reference diagrams they might be willing to share I would love to see what I'm thinking about getting myself into.

      Maybe the Welsh kit instead?

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      Post #69389, posted on 02-13-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Check out this thread: http://airlinercafe.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=68328#68328

      Not exactly what you're talking about but you get the idea. It would be a pretty large undertaking to say the least. Someone else will have a better idea than I. If you can stomach the price (absolutely worth it IMO) the authentic airliners 747 classic is by far the best option on the market.

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      Post #69414, posted on 02-14-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...................


      I did a kit bash with a Revell 747-100 and a Revell 747-400 to build a Singapore Airlines 747-300 and a UPS 747-400F. The fuselages were different widths, which they should not have been, so when I got through it was not what I had hoped and it starts getting pricey when more than one kit is involved. I would guess that mating 747-200 wings from another kit would be problematic along with the tail and horizontal stabs.

      So as stated, the AA 747-200 kit may not be that much more. I have not built one yet but the AA kits I have built were second to none.


      Good luck,

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      Post #69416, posted on 02-14-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      You could use the Zvezda -8 wings with suitably modified flap track canoes, wing tip, panel lines (the flaps are different), and of course engines. The difference in airfoil section is inconsequential on a scale model like this.

      The plan form shape of the wing is identical (aside from the tip) to other 747 wings.

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      Post #69422, posted on 02-15-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Basically you have two options:

      The AA classic kit ($160) (if it's anything like the 744, then it's excellent!)

      A Zvezda kitbash, for which you will need:

      Zvezda 748 kit (~$50)
      Resin engines (BraZ??) ($20 + ~$10 S/H)

      Then you'll need to mod the Zvezda kit by cutting it down, filling the double rudder, rescribing the panel lines on the wing, cutting the tips down, refairing the wingtip, reshaping the flaptrack canoes, changing the wheel size (if you care that much), reshaping the wing gear doors, and maybe a few other things.

      Ultimately, it's your play call. I know which play call I would make under those circumstances.

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      Post #69496, posted on 02-19-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Am I missing something, the original poster was asking about a -200, or have people gone with the thinking it's a -300 he wants

      I have to question why not use the old Revell kit, I know it's basically a -100, but would be easier to rescribe and fit new engines than all that would be need to convert the Zvezda kit, and I always thought that if didn't have much wrong with the nose, can anyone enlighten me as to why the Zvezda fuselage would be better, and also it has a whole different WBF.

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      Post #69505, posted on 02-20-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Graeme :
      Am I missing something, the original poster was asking about a -200, or have people gone with the thinking it's a -300 he wants

      I have to question why not use the old Revell kit, I know it's basically a -100, but would be easier to rescribe and fit new engines than all that would be need to convert the Zvezda kit, and I always thought that if didn't have much wrong with the nose, can anyone enlighten me as to why the Zvezda fuselage would be better, and also it has a whole different WBF.


      Externally, the 100 and 200 are mostly the same (wheel diameter and late-200 WBF notwithstanding), so that would work. I think the concern is that the Revell kit shape is off, whereas the Zvezda 748 is nearly dead-on in that regard.

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      Post #69551, posted on 02-22-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      The upper bulge on the old (1971) Revell kit is asymmetrical left to right. Not bad if you don't know it's there, but once you do, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

      From back in the days of hand carved physical masters.

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      Post #69556, posted on 02-23-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Revell's average on airliner kits from that era is really good and many of them can still hold their own (if you take certain kits, like the L-1011 based on a preliminary design, out of the picture), but the weakest areas tended to be the engines and the forward fuselage/cockpit shape. The DC-10 is wonderful except for that too-low cockpit and nonexistent radome, and the mushy shape of the engine cowls and hot sections. The 747 is a little better but the area around the cockpit windows doesn't have any real definition, and there's also the cross-sectional asymmetry. The wing/fuselage fairing also benefits from a little more definition, especially the aft section below the cabin windows. The JT9s aren't bad (although I think they look a little scrawny) but the CF6s are as vague as those in the DC-10 kit.

      I've had an E-4B in work ever since the reissue hit the streets a few years back, and while I've managed to fix the fuselage issues, I have yet to salvage those CF6s in a way that makes me satisfied. Those engines have a distinctive contour at the cowl lip that is difficult to capture.

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      Post #69558, posted on 02-23-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      No!!!!

      J,

      Now that you have pointed that out, I can never look at my Revell Pan Am 747-100 the same way again:-)

      Cheers,

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      Post #69576, posted on 02-25-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Jennings :
      The upper bulge on the old (1971) Revell kit is asymmetrical left to right. Not bad if you don't know it's there, but once you do, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

      From back in the days of hand carved physical masters.



      OK then, every day is a learning day must get me one of those AA ones then

      Graeme