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      Post #73087, posted on 08-10-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      I have been using Tamiya white primer for the white on my airliners. Three coats and a buffing looks great, but I have noticed that some decals, mostly kit decals, don't adhere very well. They don't seem to have a tolerance for much handling before they crack and break off. I solved the problem by sealing the model in acrylic floor wax, just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Micro set /sealer doesn't seem to have much affect.

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      Post #73089, posted on 08-10-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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      I have been using Tamiya white primer for the white on my airliners. Three coats and a buffing looks great, but I have noticed that some decals, mostly kit decals, don't adhere very well. They don't seem to have a tolerance for much handling before they crack and break off. I solved the problem by sealing the model in acrylic floor wax, just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Micro set /sealer doesn't seem to have much affect.



      It's really problem going to depend on the finish of the paint job and how smooth it is and whether you have smoothed-out the primer enough to get the decals to lay on a flat surface. It could also depend on the age of the decals in question and needing to spray an acrylic coat on the decal sheet before cutting and applying.

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      Post #73090, posted on 08-10-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      How fine a grit are you buffing it to? I've used this approach with good results in the past, I always put the microset on the model in a little drop before the decal to give myself space to play with.

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      Post #73092, posted on 08-10-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      I might suggest it may depend on what type of decal you are using as they behave differently depending on how they are made.

      Follow manufacturers instructions if they are not a silk screened decal.

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      Post #73094, posted on 08-10-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      In general, kit manufacturers are going to use the cheapest decal printer they can get away with. Some don't, but most do. And these days that's usually somebody in China. I've not had good luck using a lot of those decals, regardless of what kind of surface you apply them to.

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      Post #73096, posted on 08-10-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Steve,

      As others have noted, your issue is likely caused by the decals, not the prep. If
      the decal won't lay down over Future (NOT a wax, btw), it is the culprit. Not all
      decal stock reacts with Micro-Set (or household vinegar, it's the same stuff), or
      Micro-Sol. Notorious for this are some of the older stock from Gio. Personally,
      I only use Sol sparingly and only if absolutely necessary. It eats acrylic paint,
      and thus, will also eat away at your Future finish. My advice would be to use a
      blow dryer. I've been using heat for years and it works universally.

      Alan Aronoff
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      Post #73105, posted on 08-11-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Steve...

      I would echo Jennings' observations...I cannot recommend only one or two decals that are supplied with the kit; most are simply trash. There are WAY too many options for very fine decals that are dependable and look better than the real thing, in some cases. Any of the Liveries Unlimited decals that Jennings designed are superior in design, workmanship, printing, and application. the same can be said for Vintage Flyer, 26, Authentic Airliners, and many others....

      As for application...I would agree wholly with Alan...your issue is most likely NOT the prep of the surface but the decal itself. I apply decals in much the same way Alan has described, and I also use very warm CLEAN water, with a drop or two of Dawn dish washing liquid added and stirred in, kept warm with a desktop mug warmer, dipped and not soaked, then applied with a light blow from a low heat hair dryer. Use the solutions sparingly...they can be quite harsh, and you don't want any surprises while you're applying.