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      Post #73911, posted on 11-29-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Iím looking for the Xtracolor brand of paint in Air Canada light/ice blue. Does anyone have this or know of a good source for this? Thanks for your help

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      Post #73912, posted on 11-29-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello Mark,

      I got mine at kitlinx.com, is Xtracolor Air Canada #553, unfortunately I donít see it on their stock list, perhaps they can special order, check them out.

      All the best,
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      Post #73913, posted on 11-29-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      If you can't get hold of it try Molotow 'Baby Blue' acrylic spray. It is a pretty good match.


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      Post #73914, posted on 11-29-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Hey Mark

      I think i have it. I'll check when I get home tonight.

      Failing that I order xtracolor from flash aviation in the Netherlands. They are very good and will ship it no problem.

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      Post #73918, posted on 11-29-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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      Hello Mark,

      I got mine at kitlinx.com, is Xtracolor Air Canada #553, unfortunately I donít see it on their stock list, perhaps they can special order, check them out.



      Thanks for the hint Cesare, I never heard of kitlinx and was able to order some much neede Xtracolour paints I haven't been able to find!

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      Post #73925, posted on 11-30-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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      Hello Mark,

      I got mine at kitlinx.com, is Xtracolor Air Canada #553, unfortunately I donít see it on their stock list, perhaps they can special order, check them out.



      Thanks for the hint Cesare, I never heard of kitlinx and was able to order some much neede Xtracolour paints I haven't been able to find!



      Very good Bill...

      All the best,
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      Post #73935, posted on 12-01-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Pm sent Mark

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      Post #73943, posted on 12-02-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Were there not two different versions of the toothpaste scheme, one with a more green hue and the other more of a cool blue?

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      Post #73944, posted on 12-02-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Officially, no, AFAIK. That said, you are correct in your observation. Seems someone at the paint
      shop had a few bad days. Though, given the number of aircraft (all types) painted in the darker hue,
      it must have had approval from above at some point.

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      Were there not two different versions of the toothpaste scheme, one with a more green hue and the other more of a cool blue?


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      Post #73945, posted on 12-03-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Have you ever tried to Mix White with a few drops of blue?

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      Post #73947, posted on 12-03-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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      Officially, no, AFAIK. That said, you are correct in your observation. Seems someone at the paint
      shop had a few bad days. Though, given the number of aircraft (all types) painted in the darker hue,
      it must have had approval from above at some point.

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      Were there not two different versions of the toothpaste scheme, one with a more green hue and the other more of a cool blue?





      I am quite sure and bet that there is only one shade which was used, but this colour is - what we call in textile business - "metameric".
      The shade changes its appearance under different light conditions.
      Same with the old Etihad colour. Sometimes it looks beige and sometimes greyish.

      Greetings Daniel

      Have fun! Life is short enough.

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      Post #73948, posted on 12-03-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      If I may make a point here, it's the perception of the "proper color" that matters, not the actual airline color "number" or a paint chip.

      Example: Reno Air green always looked and photographed darker that it really was up close, and this was reflected in model decals of the period. The "real" Reno Air green color was more e like the lighter green of USA interstate road signs. Only those with up-close encounters with Reno Air aircraft color with a modeler's friend fan-deck would know.

      If the Air Canada ice Blue looks "blue" to your eyes in photos, tint white with blue until it looks right. If greenish in appearance, then tint white with green. Mix to match your perception, rather than reality.

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      Post #73949, posted on 12-03-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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      If I may make a point here, it's the perception of the "proper color" that matters, not the actual airline color "number" or a paint chip.

      Example: Reno Air green always looked and photographed darker that it really was up close, and this was reflected in model decals of the period. The "real" Reno Air green color was more e like the lighter green of USA interstate road signs. Only those with up-close encounters with Reno Air aircraft color with a modeler's friend fan-deck would know.

      If the Air Canada ice Blue looks "blue" to your eyes in photos, tint white with blue until it looks right. If greenish in appearance, then tint white with green. Mix to match your perception, rather than reality.

      Gerry



      Exactly, compare the same AC on a sunny day and then on a Cloudy day, real colors show better with minimum light conditions (not on nights) and preferably natural light.
      On the other hand if you have access to the hangar and have a pantone deck fan it will be much more easy to achieve the color.

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      Post #73950, posted on 12-03-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      I'll second what's being said about capturing the perception of a color. We can try as best we want to match a color to a slide or a paint chip or whatever, but how we perceive that color will be affected by lighting, weathering and so many other factors. With some colors, there's also "scale effect" in play - how a paint looks on the full-size subject will look different on a scale model. And, honestly, each person will see each color a little differently.

      I have spent much time and effort over the years trying to get dead-on matches to specific paint references, gotten frustrated when paints I had been using disappeared, and dealing with so much else. Over time I started mixing my own paint to match how I perceived whatever color I needed. My Canyon Blue, developed after a lot of testing, may not be a spot-on match, but it certainly matches how I perceive that color on the many Southwest 737s I've seen and traveled aboard. Same for the Boeing Gray formula I came up with, which may not be an exact match but sure hits the color notes of every Boeing product I've flown aboard.

      There are a handful of very distinct colors I have never found a way to duplicate (BAC 5070/5071 foremost among them, along with the two blues of the Eastern hockey stick), but for so many others I have found that a little time and careful experimentation will get you awfully close in scale to what you want.

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      Post #73953, posted on 12-03-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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      Officially, no, AFAIK. That said, you are correct in your observation. Seems someone at the paint
      shop had a few bad days. Though, given the number of aircraft (all types) painted in the darker hue,
      it must have had approval from above at some point.

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      LH707 :
      Were there not two different versions of the toothpaste scheme, one with a more green hue and the other more of a cool blue?





      I am quite sure and bet that there is only one shade which was used, but this colour is - what we call in textile business - "metameric".
      The shade changes its appearance under different light conditions.
      Same with the old Etihad colour. Sometimes it looks beige and sometimes greyish.

      Greetings Daniel



      Daniel,

      This particular subject has nothing to do with metamerism. Looking at 2 "Ice" blue painted aircraft on the ramp side by side would attest to that. Part of the fleet was definitely a different paint (darker/bluer) than the standard (correct) AC Ice Blue as sold by Hannants.

      Alan Aronoff
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