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      Post #73975, posted on 12-05-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Dear fellow modellers,

      there are great news coming from Kurts work bench!
      Finally we will see a correct KC-135 in 1/144!

      Kurt is currently producing all three engine versions!

      The A is coming first with the J57 water injection organ pipe engines,
      followed by the E with the standard 707 JT3D engines (military designation TF33)
      and finally the R with the CFM56 engines (designated F108).

      Here are three images that show this beauty as work in progress.

      They may arrive during January or February 2020.





      Yes I know there is the Minicraft KC-135 out there ... but the rivet counters among us will know their errors.

      In comparison to the Minicraft kit, the AA will feature a
      - correct nose profile
      - correctly-sized tail cone
      - correct refuling housing and boom
      - correct engines (all three types)

      The stringers on the aft fuselage will be supplied as 3D Decals from https://www.authentic-airliner-decals.de

      Moreover, the refuling boom is a seperate piece, so that aircraft that flew without the boom can
      be modelled as well, e.g. the legendary all-silver WC-135B with the yellow WEATHER markings.

      Awesome decals are available from Caracal Decals:
      http://www.caracalmodels.com/144scale.html

      The KC-135 is about to round up the fleet of 707 versions that Kurt is continuing to supply us with.

      I am extremely delighted that he is so happily fulfilling my wish for a perfect KC-135
      and I hope that some of you share this euphoria and celebrate this upcoming gem!

      Thanks Kurt for supplying us with such great models!

      Cheers,
      Christian

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      Post #73984, posted on 12-05-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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      Dear fellow modellers,

      there are great news coming from Kurts work bench!
      Finally we will see a correct KC-135 in 1/144!

      Kurt is currently producing all three engine versions!

      The A is coming first with the J57 water injection organ pipe engines,
      followed by the E with the standard 707 JT3D engines (military designation TF33)
      and finally the R with the CFM56 engines (designated F108).

      Here are three images that show this beauty as work in progress.

      They may arrive during January or February 2020.





      Yes I know there is the Minicraft KC-135 out there ... but the rivet counters among us will know their errors.

      In comparison to the Minicraft kit, the AA will feature a
      - correct nose profile
      - correctly-sized tail cone
      - correct refuling housing and boom
      - correct engines (all three types)

      The stringers on the aft fuselage will be supplied as 3D Decals from https://www.authentic-airliner-decals.de

      Moreover, the refuling boom is a seperate piece, so that aircraft that flew without the boom can
      be modelled as well, e.g. the legendary all-silver WC-135B with the yellow WEATHER markings.

      Awesome decals are available from Caracal Decals:
      http://www.caracalmodels.com/144scale.html

      The KC-135 is about to round up the fleet of 707 versions that Kurt is continuing to supply us with.

      I am extremely delighted that he is so happily fulfilling my wish for a perfect KC-135
      and I hope that some of you share this euphoria and celebrate this upcoming gem!

      Thanks Kurt for supplying us with such great models!

      Cheers,
      Christian



      Looking forward to this, but I hope there are no “organ pipes” on the J57s. No ‘135 variant ever had them.

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      Post #73991, posted on 12-06-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Very true Jennings and of course they have no "organ pipes".
      They just fall within this category of engines at that time and I didnt know how to describe them better )

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      Post #74055, posted on 12-15-2019 GMT-5 hours    
      Gorgeous!!!!! Wow, a KC with the big engines would be stupendous.

      I'd also like to suggest a proper 748 if there is enough demand for it. The Revell and Zvezda kits are good, but I'm sure Kurt's special skills would make the Queen even better!

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      Post #74357, posted on 01-30-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Dear fellow modellers,

      Kurt just relased his 1:144 KC-135 A and E and the R is to follow very soon!

      Here are some images of the model:







      The KC-135A comes with the J57 (JT-3C) engines:



      The KC-135E comes with the TF33 (JT-3D) engines:



      The KC-135R comes with the F108 (CFM-56) engines:



      The stringers on the aft fuselage will be supplied as 3D Decals from https://www.authentic-airliner-decals.de
      They are in final production.

      Awesome decals are available from Caracal Decals:
      http://www.caracalmodels.com/144scale.html

      Hope you enjoy this gem as much as I do


      Cheers,
      Christian

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      Post #74360, posted on 01-30-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I have 15 of Kurt's 707 kits(all flavors) and they are magnificent! My military collection is in 1/72 scale so maybe there will be a 1/72 scale version of a KC-135A?


      Awesome work!!

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      Post #74367, posted on 01-31-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Fellows,
      Can a “Dash-80” be model from a KC-135?

      Walter

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      Post #74368, posted on 01-31-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I'd say not really as the Dash 80 was a more or less compelety different aircraft and had a 30 cm smaller fuselage diameter compared to the KC-135 that again was smaller in diameter compared to the 707.

      "The 132 inches (3,350 mm) fuselage of the Dash 80 was only wide enough to fit 2+2 seating (in the manner of the Stratocruiser). Boeing soon realized that this would not provide a viable payload, so decided to widen the fuselage to 144 in (3,660 mm), the same as the KC-135 Stratotanker, which would allow six-abreast seating and the shared use of the KC-135's tooling. However, Douglas had launched its DC-8 project with a fuselage width of 147 in (3,730 mm). The airlines liked the extra space, and so Boeing was obliged to increase the 707's cabin width again, this time to 148 in (3,760 mm). This meant that little of the tooling that was made for the Dash 80 was usable for the 707."

      I found this on airliners.net:


      -----------------367-80------KC-135A------707-100B----707-300B
      Fuselage--------132"---------144"-----------148"----------148"
      Width
      Span-----------129' 8"------130' 10"-------130' 10"-------142' 5"
      Length---------119' 6"------134' 6"---------144' 6"--------152' 11"
      GTOW--------190,000 lb---316,000 lb-----258,000 lb---312,000 lb
      Powerplant---4 X PWA---- 4 X PWA-------4 X PWA-----4 X PWA
      ----------------JT3C-1-----J-57-31----------JT3D-1-------JT3D-7
      ---------------10,500 lb---11,800 lb-------17,000 lb----19,000 lb
      -----------------thrust--------or
      ---------------------------- J-57-59W
      -----------------------------13,750 lb
      ---------------------------water injection


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      Post #74370, posted on 01-31-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      While a KC-135 kit is an easier starting point than a 707 for a 367-80 project, there's still a fair amount of converting to be done. Not only do you have to cut the fuselage length and somehow reduce the fuselage cross-section, but you also have to figure out just which configuration you want to represent. There's something like 17,670,002 different configurations that aircraft had throughout its career, and some of them were odd and hard to document, and although they may have resembled features of other aircraft they were particular to the 367-80, so it's not just simple transplant work for some things.

      Given the fuselage cross-section difference I would suggest an injection-molded kit would be easier to work with than figuring out how to cut a resin fuselage down the middle while keeping everything straight.

      If you ever examine the real 367-80B up close (it's now at the NASM Dulles annex), you'll see it was very much a working airplane, and there are some details of it that are surprisingly rough-looking. You can see just how hard-working it was, and see the scars of a hundred or more test programs it participated in. It's a very important airframe and I'm glad it's in a place where we can all enjoy looking at it up close.

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      Post #74371, posted on 01-31-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Also, the wing/body fairing on the Dash-80 is completely different from that on the KC-135 or any 707. It's smaller all the way around.

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      Post #74373, posted on 02-01-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      That’s too bad!
      The idea of a dash-80 doing a barrel roll is sooo
      Awesome!!!
      Some day I’ll find a better dash 80 than the old
      Comet kit!!

      Thanks for the data though, very useful

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      Post #74525, posted on 02-18-2020 GMT-5 hours    
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      Dear fellow modellers,

      Kurt just relased his 1:144 KC-135 A and E and the R is to follow very soon!

      The KC-135A comes with the J57 (JT-3C) engines:

      The KC-135E comes with the TF33 (JT-3D) engines:

      The KC-135R comes with the F108 (CFM-56) engines:

      The stringers on the aft fuselage will be supplied as 3D Decals from https://www.authentic-airliner-decals.de
      They are in final production.

      Hope you enjoy this gem as much as I do

      Cheers,
      Christian



      Christian,
      Where can I order Kurt's KC-135 kits? There is no link. I was happy to make do with the Minicraft kits, after "converting" Revell KC-135s/E-3A kits for years. Now that I see his handiwork, I can't rest until I have one of each.
      Kindest regards,
      Dutch

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      Post #74526, posted on 02-18-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      BTW, Caracal is set to release a new 1/144 KC-135A/E sheet very soon, CD144009 (finally!).

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      Post #74527, posted on 02-18-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Dutch,

      Welcome to ACafe!!!

      Kurt’s most excellent kits are available at: https://www.authentic-airliners.de


      Best,

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      Post #74528, posted on 02-18-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Welcome to ACafe from my side as well Dutch,
      as Chris already pointed out, and here are the deep links:

      https://www.authentic-airliners.de/epages/64205758.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64205758/Products/K144-68A
      https://www.authentic-airliners.de/epages/64205758.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64205758/Products/K144-68E
      https://www.authentic-airliners.de/epages/64205758.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64205758/Products/K144-68R

      Cheers,

      Christian

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      Post #74727, posted on 03-20-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Can't wait to get the -R kit when its available. Looks like Caradecal is sadly sold out of the R decals though.

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      Post #74730, posted on 03-20-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Bill-ay,

      One thing to remember is that when Kurt's Kits become avaialbe, they tend to go quickly. Tag the "notify when available" link and be ready to go.

      Good luck!

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      Post #74756, posted on 03-22-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Cheers Mark, did just that. Don't want to miss out on one of these.

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      Post #74793, posted on 03-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Yikes, glad I checked my spam folder on email since thats where the "in stock" email went. Just ordered 2 of the -R kits, can't wait to get them. Favorite aircraft next to the A300/A310.