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Post #74038, posted on 12-13-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Hey guys!

Apologies in advance if I'm posting this in the wrong section. I'll move it as necessary to the correct section if I'm violation of the rules.

I'm pleased to announce a new line of original resin model kits in 1/72 scale: the B737-200Adv and 737-300. These should be ready for purchase by late January 2020. More model release announcements will follow shortly after.

We will strive to produce affordable, extremely accurate, and finely detailed resin model kits across multiple scales, which will appeal to modellers of all skill levels. In order to help generate some interest in these upcoming kits, we are going to have some giveaways including full kits - so check out our website and Facebook page for details on that:

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This endeavor started last year when I decided to create a 1/100 737-200 model for my own amusement. You can follow the design and build of that model here. Eventually the model got the attention of a heavyweight in the diecast realm who offered to help produce them as finished display models in 1/100 and even 1/50. After the deal evaporated, I turned to remaking the model far more intensively and accurately than I had previously had, with the idea to offer them as resin kits. Additionaly, 737-300/400/500 specific parts were modeled as well.

Some features of the model include:
-Solid resin fuselage, tail, stabilizer and wings.
-Clear forward fuselage section, landing light and wingtip light lenses
-Crisp, deep panel lines which will be able to survive a moderate sanding.
-Multiple panel line widths of between 0.003"(0.075mm) and 0.013"(0.33 mm) which will help keep surface details in scale.
-A true to CAD master pattern which will create exquisite tooling for the model castings.
-Exceptionally well fitting parts so little glue will be required.
-A genuine ALPS printed orginal decal artwork.
-Detailed landing gear and tires(in work)
-Recessed detail in the landing gear wheel wells(in work)
-Detailed cockpit(in work)

The following images are renderings of the CAD model, and not actual photos. But they should give a good idea of what to expect from the kits.










While the models are still in the design and testing stage, we are confident stating that both the 737-200 and 737-300 1/72 kits will be available for purchase very early in 2020. Small scale testing of the master pattern for detail and part fitting have been extremely encouraging with "true to CAD" results. Details as fine as 0.06mm (0.002") have been nicely reproduced.

Following these releases, we plan on bringing you a full line of Original and Classic series 737s(-100 thru -500) in the scale of 1/200. If there is enough interest, we can create a line of 1/144 737's but I think Authentic Airliners and Daco have them well covered. The next major airframe will likely be the 707/720/KC-135 series, which will also be offered in 1/72 and 1/200.

I'll be updating this thread up until the release, so check back for news! If you're on facebook and like what you see, throw us a "like" over there!

Thanks for looking,

Neil
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Post #74039, posted on 12-13-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Fantastic!!!! Sign me up for a -300!

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Post #74040, posted on 12-13-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Neil,

Very nice work. Maybe you can be the first to the 737-10Max in 1/144 scale! Perhaps the new United Livery?

Once again, very nice work!!

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Post #74041, posted on 12-13-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks guys!

Mark, I don't know if we'll be the first to tackle the 737 Max 10, but I can say I really want to do a complete series of the 737 family in 1/72 1/144 and 1/200.

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Post #74042, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
This will be interesting! A high quality 1/72 737-500 would be great!

Did you give up on the 1/100 scale alltogether? Its actually a very nice scale for single isle models.

Best of luck on your enterprise!

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Post #74043, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Well, the statement of doing the 707/720 series in 1/200 certainly caught my attention. I have been waiting for years on these aircraft in a manageable scale. The 1/144 is great but I have many Hasegawa models and would like to expand with the 707/720 series. OH, the possibilities there. Also to expand into the other airliners of that era. The CV880/990, DC propliners, Constellation and Electra. I look forward to whatever is done in the 1/200 scale. Thanks for your efforts.

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Post #74044, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
This is looking great, and I'm really looking forward to purchasing a few of these kits. The -300 is especially exciting.

As I know was already mentioned on FB, please consider adding an option for the wingtip logo light fairings for both the -200 and -300. It would be a great little detail to include to allow builders to do certain liveries with better accuracy and to prevent us from having to scratch build a detail like that (yuck!).

Can't wait to see more!

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Post #74045, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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This will be interesting! A high quality 1/72 737-500 would be great!

Did you give up on the 1/100 scale alltogether? Its actually a very nice scale for single isle models.

Best of luck on your enterprise!



Thanks! Yeah, I really like 1/100 scale but I'm not sure how popular those would be. I'm still looking into doing that scale for a separate line of display models. But if there is demand for kits, we will do it for sure.

We intend do the -400 and -500 in both 72 and 200 scale. Re-tooling the -300 for those will likely run alongside the 707/720 development.

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Well, the statement of doing the 707/720 series in 1/200 certainly caught my attention. I have been waiting for years on these aircraft in a manageable scale. The 1/144 is great but I have many Hasegawa models and would like to expand with the 707/720 series. OH, the possibilities there. Also to expand into the other airliners of that era. The CV880/990, DC propliners, Constellation and Electra. I look forward to whatever is done in the 1/200 scale. Thanks for your efforts.



I'm excited about doing the 707 series next and the 1/200 will probably we released ahead of the 1/72 scale next time around. All fuselages, wing, engine and tail variations will be offered so they will be highly customizable kits. Not sure what will follow the 707, but it'll likely be another classic airliner.

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Post #74047, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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This is looking great, and I'm really looking forward to purchasing a few of these kits. The -300 is especially exciting.

As I know was already mentioned on FB, please consider adding an option for the wingtip logo light fairings for both the -200 and -300. It would be a great little detail to include to allow builders to do certain liveries with better accuracy and to prevent us from having to scratch build a detail like that (yuck!).

Can't wait to see more!



I've decided that both wingtip options will be molded as separate pieces to the wing. This may actually make the job of molding and casting a lot easier as well!

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Post #74048, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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Well, the statement of doing the 707/720 series in 1/200 certainly caught my attention. I have been waiting for years on these aircraft in a manageable scale. The 1/144 is great but I have many Hasegawa models and would like to expand with the 707/720 series. OH, the possibilities there. Also to expand into the other airliners of that era. The CV880/990, DC propliners, Constellation and Electra. I look forward to whatever is done in the 1/200 scale. Thanks for your efforts.



I'm excited about doing the 707 series next and the 1/200 will probably we released ahead of the 1/72 scale next time around. All fuselages, wing, engine and tail variations will be offered so they will be highly customizable kits. Not sure what will follow the 707, but it'll likely be another classic airliner.



I hope there is a 1/72 707-227 in your future plans.

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Post #74049, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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I've decided that both wingtip options will be molded as separate pieces to the wing. This may actually make the job of molding and casting a lot easier as well!



That is great news! Thank you very much!

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Post #74050, posted on 12-14-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Is the plan to make the landing gear struts in resin or metal? Just curious since I would imagine that the solid resin fuselage would create quite a bit of weight.

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Post #74052, posted on 12-15-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Have you ever considered doing the Convair 880 and 990 in 1/72nd? No one has ever done a decent large Convair, and I would definitely produce decals for them!

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Have you ever considered doing the Convair 880 and 990 in 1/72nd? No one has ever done a decent large Convair, and I would definitely produce decals for them!

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Hi Mike,

Man I love the 880s, and I think it would be cool make it as a 1/72 kit. I especially love the all white crown Delta crown livery. Wish I had gotten to see it in person.

I can say that what projects we do after the 737/707 will greatly depend on available technical data. Not just accurate 3 views, but good structural drawings with bulkheads and station diagrams. It's much easier to find this stuff on the newer jets for sure.

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Is the plan to make the landing gear struts in resin or metal? Just curious since I would imagine that the solid resin fuselage would create quite a bit of weight.


Very good question. We're going to try them in a very tough resin and go from there. We do have the ability to get them done in metal but the quality and detail would be noticeably lower.

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Post #74054, posted on 12-15-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Looks super! I really would like to build some larger scale 737-300s and 400s, especially. Also, what about a 757, as long as you're going big? Its a twin, so it wouldn't be obscenely larger than a 737-stretch, and its a very popular plane, in general.

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Post #74056, posted on 12-15-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Anything new in 1/200, and of your quality, is most welcome. I hope you continue down the 1/200 line.

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Post #74057, posted on 12-16-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Wow, this is exciting! How are you planning to make the solid resin and the clear parts match up? I've seen resin shrink after casting, so that might get interesting.

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Very good question. We're going to try them in a very tough resin and go from there. We do have the ability to get them done in metal but the quality and detail would be noticeably lower.



Whatever method ends up working effectively sounds good to me! Really excited about these kits. The renderings look fantastic. Not to burden you with a wish list request, but count me in if you ever decide to consider the MD-80 family (or any DC-9, for that matter) in 1:72!

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Post #74059, posted on 12-16-2019 GMT-5 hours    
In lieu of a wish list I'll tell you I'm very impressed by what you've done so far on the 737-200, and will be eager to see what these kits are like when they're out for inspection.

Good luck with this project and I hope you're very successful with it.

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Post #74063, posted on 12-17-2019 GMT-5 hours    
I agree with Jodie 100%...but I can't help but make a wish. I would love to see a 1/72 DASH-7...and the Convair jets would also be incredible:-)

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Post #74064, posted on 12-17-2019 GMT-5 hours    
A decent 727-100, Fokker 70 and 100 in 1/72 may be ?

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Post #74070, posted on 12-17-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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Looks super! I really would like to build some larger scale 737-300s and 400s, especially. Also, what about a 757, as long as you're going big? Its a twin, so it wouldn't be obscenely larger than a 737-stretch, and its a very popular plane, in general.

Thanks for listening,

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Hi Robert, they 757 is certainly in our plans! I have access to all the tech data I need for it so if not next year, probably the year after. I've already modeled the basic wing and RR engine for a customer so its technically already started!

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Wow, this is exciting! How are you planning to make the solid resin and the clear parts match up? I've seen resin shrink after casting, so that might get interesting.


We're aware of the shrinkage issue and we've yet to see if the fuselage and clear castings will shrink differently. We intend to test this very soon though. If a fit problem arises I will adjust the extents of the clear piece for a perfect fit.

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Post #74072, posted on 12-17-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks Dan and Jodie for the kind words!!

Dan, we were indeed thinking about some small airliners. I had the Brasilia and 1900 in mind, but a DASH 7 would be a lot of fun to model as well. No promises tho!

Auke, none of those are planned as of now I'm afraid. The 727 has been modeled as well as we could ever do it by Authentic Airliners in 1/144 and 1/72. That said, if a crate of tech data for a certain aircraft was to hit our doorstep the odds are much better that we would get to it.

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Wow, this is exciting! How are you planning to make the solid resin and the clear parts match up? I've seen resin shrink after casting, so that might get interesting.


We're aware of the shrinkage issue and we've yet to see if the fuselage and clear castings will shrink differently. We intend to test this very soon though. If a fit problem arises I will adjust the extents of the clear piece for a perfect fit.



Good stuff, should be exciting!

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Auke, none of those are planned as of now I'm afraid. The 727 has been modeled as well as we could ever do it by Authentic Airliners in 1/144 and 1/72. That said, if a crate of tech data for a certain aircraft was to hit our doorstep the odds are much better that we would get to it.



Good to see people splitting up products instead of everyone building dupes like Zvezda and Revell did with the 748.

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Post #74077, posted on 12-18-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Oh my.... Put me down for one!!!

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Post #74080, posted on 12-19-2019 GMT-5 hours    
I got in contact with Neil already making the suggestion not to do the same stuff twice and he immediately agreed. Although, I had a 1/72 757-200 kit on my future plans, I will leave this project to Neil. On the other hand, I decided to go ahead with my 1/72 707-120 kit, as the progress of the master is too far to through it into the trash bin.

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Post #74081, posted on 12-19-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Kurt, you're doing a 1/72 707-120!!!!!!

Put me down for one!!!!!

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I got in contact with Neil already making the suggestion not to do the same stuff twice and he immediately agreed. Although, I had a 1/72 757-200 kit on my future plans, I will leave this project to Neil. On the other hand, I decided to go ahead with my 1/72 707-120 kit, as the progress of the master is too far to through it into the trash bin.

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Very good Kurt, agree 100% that there is no need for duplicates. Best of luck on this kit, I know its gonna be a stunner!

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Post #74088, posted on 12-20-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Neil,

Very nice looking masters. The finesse and detail looks awesome. You can count on me as a customer.

Its nice to see that Kurt and you are not duplicating.

My only suggestion is go with silk screened decals. More expensive but considering the quality of your offerings I would prefer the decals be of same caliber.
Just in my humble opinion.

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The 727 has been modeled as well as we could ever do it by Authentic Airliners in 1/144 and 1/72. That said, if a crate of tech data for a certain aircraft was to hit our doorstep the odds are much better that we would get to it.



Hi Neil,

Please consider making a 1/72 727 anyway. Sure, Authentic Airliners has done it... but is it readily available? Nope! I've been trying to get either a -100 or a -200 (or both) for almost 3 years. Been on the waiting list and the notification list, but I still can't get one. They are almost never available. When they are, it's like maybe a dozen of each, and they sell out within hours. Quite ridiculous. I've contacted Kurt about it, and he wasn't friendly or helpful at all.

So please, make a 1/72 resin 727. Make it as good or better than the AA, make it more affordable if possible, and you'll have a winner on your hands for sure. This is the free market, baby; competition is good for everyone. Don't concede a monopoly to the other guy just because he asked you to. There is plenty of demand out there which he is seemingly incapable of meeting, so take advantage of that!

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Hi Neil,

Very nice looking masters. The finesse and detail looks awesome. You can count on me as a customer.

Its nice to see that Kurt and you are not duplicating.

My only suggestion is go with silk screened decals. More expensive but considering the quality of your offerings I would prefer the decals be of same caliber.
Just in my humble opinion.


Thanks for your comments Andrew. With the help and arm-twisting of another forum member here, we gonna try to give silk screened decals a go, as long as we can keep the kits affordable.

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Hi Neil,

Please consider making a 1/72 727 anyway. Sure, Authentic Airliners has done it... but is it readily available? Nope! I've been trying to get either a -100 or a -200 (or both) for almost 3 years. Been on the waiting list and the notification list, but I still can't get one. They are almost never available. When they are, it's like maybe a dozen of each, and they sell out within hours. Quite ridiculous. I've contacted Kurt about it, and he wasn't friendly or helpful at all.

So please, make a 1/72 resin 727. Make it as good or better than the AA, make it more affordable if possible, and you'll have a winner on your hands for sure. This is the free market, baby; competition is good for everyone. Don't concede a monopoly to the other guy just because he asked you to. There is plenty of demand out there which he is seemingly incapable of meeting, so take advantage of that!


Appreciate your thoughts here Flyswatter.

We won't be able to promise immediate shipping, based on demand, but I can say that anyone who wants one of our kits will get one. The tooling will be in our possession so models will be cast generally as orders come in. There may be some waiting, but there will be no "batches" that sell out, in other words.

Our models will be more affordable, certainly for North American customers. We plan to offer a limited number of "seats" at $99 for the 732 and 733 which will help jumpstart production and cover tooling costs. After that, prices should land south of $150 a kit. We aim to push the envelope of quality and affordability to the limit, at least for resin kits.

With good references, using CAD I can make the models as accurate and detailed as modellers want them to be. The only real hurdle is the fidelity of current production methods..and the costs of acquiring high end master patterns - but that's about to get better real soon!

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Post #74110, posted on 12-23-2019 GMT-5 hours    
That's great!! Put me down for one!!!!

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Post #74118, posted on 12-25-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Oh a 737-300, just based on that I registered on your website! Great news indeed. The CAD looks awesome.

So glad we have people like you guys in this hobby!

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Appreciate your thoughts here Flyswatter.

We won't be able to promise immediate shipping, based on demand, but I can say that anyone who wants one of our kits will get one. The tooling will be in our possession so models will be cast generally as orders come in. There may be some waiting, but there will be no "batches" that sell out, in other words.

Our models will be more affordable, certainly for North American customers. We plan to offer a limited number of "seats" at $99 for the 732 and 733 which will help jumpstart production and cover tooling costs. After that, prices should land south of $150 a kit. We aim to push the envelope of quality and affordability to the limit, at least for resin kits.

With good references, using CAD I can make the models as accurate and detailed as modellers want them to be. The only real hurdle is the fidelity of current production methods..and the costs of acquiring high end master patterns - but that's about to get better real soon!



Great to hear! I like the way you seem to be approaching things.

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Post #74126, posted on 12-29-2019 GMT-5 hours    
I meant to ask Neil is there any chance the 200 series will come with a gravel kit?

There is about a dozen combi / gravel kit 737s operating up here in Canada.

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Post #74127, posted on 12-29-2019 GMT-5 hours    
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I meant to ask Neil is there any chance the 200 series will come with a gravel kit?

There is about a dozen combi / gravel kit 737s operating up here in Canada.



I think that's a very safe bet...

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Post #74128, posted on 12-30-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Any chance of 1/72 DC-8 and 9 (all variants) in the future

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Post #74129, posted on 12-30-2019 GMT-5 hours    
There's always a chance

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Post #74130, posted on 12-30-2019 GMT-5 hours    
Accurate 1/72 DC-8s would be Wonderful ✨👍

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Post #74255, posted on 01-24-2020 GMT-5 hours    
These advance shots are stunning.

And I'm really excited about 1/200 707 series
And a perfect accompaniment to that would be a 1/200 DC8 series.

I can see the SYD ramp diorama already. QF 707, TE DC8, KLM DC8, OA 707, Alitalia DC8, ........

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Post #74314, posted on 01-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
AeroModl has started to take pre-orders for the 1/72 B737-200 and B737-300 kits. They are using a GoFundMe page to handle the preorder sale. Here's the link to the page with more info:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/aeromodl-172-b737-model-launch

I could not resist the possibility of getting a 1/72 Piedmont B737-300 as that is one of their planned decals!
have fun modeling
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Post #74328, posted on 01-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks for that Mike. I wanted to get here sooner for the announcement of the presale but the response has been overwhelming so far! Before I get to the crowdfunding, just wanted update you guys on the project and whats been happening.

Since the announcement of our planned kits, we've undergone small scale testing of various parts, mostly the "challenging" parts and I feel good enough about the testing to go forward with orders and production. We've also looked at various ways to produce the master(prototype) using everything from the Form 2 up to machines that are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars or more. We settled on a printer and process that can create extremely fine and sharp detail.

Example part:

I've also kept working the CAD, which is now 99.7% done on the -200. The engines were overhauled as I still thought they didn't look entirely correct. More detail was added such as: cockpit seats and instrument panel, wheel well detail and antennas and probes and various "humps and bumps".

Some new CAD renders:















Some of the wheel well detail will be molded in(like some hydraulic lines) but most parts will be separate. The cockpit parts will consist five parts: two yokes, two seats and and the instrument panel. The antennas and sensors will be created with specialty miniature 3D printers as opposed to photo-etch. The pitot probes will have stems that fit into molded in holes. The engine "innards" will be able to be painted separately from the nacelle, which will be two parts.

As Mike noted, we've started a Gofundme fundraiser which will cover the initial costs for the masters, molds, jigs, tools, resin, etc.

If you're interested in reserving a 'seat' for the presale price of $99, or just want to donate a small amount to help us out - visit our webpage and our gofundme page for more information. More CAD renders over on my Flickr as well.

Thanks so much to all of you who've already contributed, you guys rock!

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Post #74340, posted on 01-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Neil,

I don't want to rain into your parade, instead I want to help you to eliminate minor faults. Your Cad designs are absolutely stunning however, the nose gear wheels are those of the -300 and not of the -200. The -200 nose wheel hubs are much smaller compared to the entire wheel diameter. Also the nose gear doors shall not be angled outwards but rectangular to the surface or even angled slightly inwards. I guess, you will be able to rectify this pretty easily.

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Post #74342, posted on 01-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
Good catch Kurt! You are correct. Here's a -200 nose gear...


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Post #74343, posted on 01-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
Good eye Kurt! Appreciate you mentioning that. This was actually pointed after the initial announcement but had slipped my mind. Now taken care of! The doors sort of "float" in the CAD as they are separate parts and the angle can be controlled by the end modeller.



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Post #74351, posted on 01-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
Hi folks.

Nicely welcomed news guys.

I just sent my pre sale contribution to have a 737-300.

The CAD images are really awesome.

Cheers from Brazil!

JM.