Airlinercafe Home Page

Stop being a lurker - join our community and get involved. Sign up and start a conversation!
 

      Author Message

      Tui mad


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 36
      Location: bath
      Occupation: model shop frome
      Age:

      Post #76965, posted on 11-25-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi all great news zvezda are vring out b757-200 next year yes its true at last a good plastic model kit in the market
      Author Message

      planecrazy


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 95
      Location: Rhode Island
      Occupation: retired airline employee
      Age: 61

      Post #76966, posted on 11-25-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Excellent!

      Author Message

      Jennings


      Contributors

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 4454
      Location: The great desert southwest, USA
      Occupation: Nurse Anesthesiologist
      Age: 118

      Post #76967, posted on 11-25-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      It took a while, but they finally saw the light! I sent their designer all of my 757 drawings and reference material several years ago. It ought to be a real cracker!

      Author Message

      BruinPrideBand


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 596
      Location: DCA
      Occupation: International Aviation Law
      Age:

      Post #76968, posted on 11-25-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Awesome! Count me in for *several*.

      Chris

      "Sorry Goose... But it's time to buzz the Tower."

      Author Message

      DullesFlyer


      Upper Deck Member

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 240
      Location: Phoenix -- Maryland That Is!
      Occupation: DullesFlyer
      Age:

      Post #76969, posted on 11-25-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Awesome news. I will get many. So glad we some the real thing still flying, too!

      On Arrival (1/144 scale):

      BA 747-400
      EK 777-300ER
      AA A321-200 NEO
      NW DC10-40
      UA 737-900ER

      Author Message

      Misterblank


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 221
      Location: Long Beach
      Occupation: Aircraft Mechanic
      Age: 50

      Post #76970, posted on 11-25-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Hallelujah! A holiday miracle! So happy Zvezda came to their senses and finally kitted it up. Question is what am I going to do with all my Minicraft 757ís?

      Best regards...Duncan

      Author Message

      Exile


      Upper Deck Member

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 1194
      Location: Cannock
      Occupation: RAF retired.
      Age:

      Post #76976, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Double good news with the release of this kit and Jon at 8aDecs announcing an upcoming range of 757 decals. He was asking for people's wish lists on Facebook recently.

      Al

      Author Message

      RB211-524


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 41
      Location:
      Occupation:
      Age:

      Post #76978, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Brilliant news, still amazed it took so long for a new injected molded kit to be released. I still have painful memories of the Masterkit and Minicraft things.

      I hope they will tool all 3 engines types but I am not too confident, it has never happened.

      Long live Russian injected molded kit producers (Zvezda, MikroMir, Eastern Express and Big Planes Kits, to name a few).

      Cheers, Stephane

      Frankensteined :
      Zvezda 767-400ER, Heller A321-200

      Author Message

      Holmes757


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 236
      Location: Trinidad
      Occupation: Aviation Security Officer
      Age: 37

      Post #76983, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I hope the engines and winglets come optional.... great news

      Author Message

      Frank V


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 73
      Location: Calgary
      Occupation: Structural Engineer
      Age:

      Post #76984, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I am sure that if the kit only comes with one engine / wing tip option, we are fortunate to have a robust after market industry who can/will supply various engine options.

      Frank van der Voet
      Calgary, AB, Canada

      Author Message

      Ben Brown


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 221
      Location: Raleigh, NC
      Occupation:
      Age:

      Post #76987, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Fantastic news! Yet another "license to print money" kit.

      I hope someone releases some decals for 1990s USAir (@Jennings!!! ). Simple but pretty livery, especially on the 757.

      Ben

      Author Message

      Jennings


      Contributors

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 4454
      Location: The great desert southwest, USA
      Occupation: Nurse Anesthesiologist
      Age: 118

      Post #76988, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks Ben. I think I'm done with airliner decals. Just too expensive for the return these days, and there are so many fingers in the pie it's just not worth it to me.

      Author Message

      Jennings


      Contributors

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 4454
      Location: The great desert southwest, USA
      Occupation: Nurse Anesthesiologist
      Age: 118

      Post #76989, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      Frank V :
      I am sure that if the kit only comes with one engine / wing tip option, we are fortunate to have a robust after market industry who can/will supply various engine options.



      My guess is they'll include regular and winglet wing tips. And it's not impossible they'll tool both engine types. The bigger issue is which window/door/hatch arrangement they decide to mold, since unless you like decal cabin windows, that will dictate which carriers you can build accurately.

      J

      Author Message

      Frank V


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 73
      Location: Calgary
      Occupation: Structural Engineer
      Age:

      Post #76990, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Good point Jennings re: cabin window/door arrangement.

      BTW, sorry to read about your decision to pull back from airliner decals. Understandable though - expensive game.

      Frank van der Voet
      Calgary, AB, Canada

      Author Message

      Ken Miller


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 1056
      Location: Campbell, CA
      Occupation: Govt. Employee
      Age: 127

      Post #76992, posted on 11-26-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Two or three engine types? I thought the 757 just had two types. Pratt and Whitney or Rolls Royce. I would also think that each engine type was "common" enough that a kit maker would pretty much need to do both. Fingers crossed. We have waited so long for a good injection molded 757 kit.

      Ken

      Author Message

      gebbw


      Upper Deck Member

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 643
      Location: Auckland
      Occupation:
      Age:

      Post #76993, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      Ken Miller :
      Two or three engine types? I thought the 757 just had two types. Pratt and Whitney or Rolls Royce. I would also think that each engine type was "common" enough that a kit maker would pretty much need to do both. Fingers crossed. We have waited so long for a good injection molded 757 kit.

      Ken



      Yeah it did only have two manufacturer types, but there were two visually different RR types. I think the original RR version had a short hot section, but someone more knowledgeable than me will know for sure. I always liked the look of the RR "short hot section" (I dunno what you call it...) engine that BA and some other british carriers had, it looked cool.

      George
      Auckland
      New Zealand

      Author Message

      lichtjahre


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 269
      Location: Hamburg
      Occupation: Landscape Photographer and Scientist
      Age: 128

      Post #76994, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      @Jennings: It is pretty frustrating to read about your decision to halt your decal production, since they were always so very great in quality ...from the early days of Liveries Unlimited that I still successfuly use nowadays to the fantastic fŁndecals distributed gems of your IL62, IL76 and 737NG. It is very understandable though reading about your issues and cash return problems. I am sorry to hear that.

      Does your decision also effect your series of 747SP decals that you announced?

      I would be very glad to remain a happy customer on these ones as I was for all the others,

      Cheers

      Christian

      PS @Ken Miller: Yes, there were two versions of the RR engines on the 757, an early and late version which looked completely different. If you look at BA's G-BIKA series jets you will see immediatley what is meant.

      Christian Klepp
      Lightyears Landscape Photography
      Where Geoscience Meets Art
      www.christianklepp.com

      Author Message

      planecrazy


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 95
      Location: Rhode Island
      Occupation: retired airline employee
      Age: 61

      Post #76995, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Couldn't agree more Christian.

      Author Message

      Jennings


      Contributors

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 4454
      Location: The great desert southwest, USA
      Occupation: Nurse Anesthesiologist
      Age: 118

      Post #76996, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      lichtjahre :Does your decision also effect your series of 747SP decals that you announced?



      Afraid so. Given the print minimums required to get quality silkscreen printing done, it's just not worth the investment. There aren't enough dedicated model *builders* left in the world to make it work for us. People want their models build and finished for them by someone else.

      Author Message

      lichtjahre


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 269
      Location: Hamburg
      Occupation: Landscape Photographer and Scientist
      Age: 128

      Post #77000, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Jennings,
      would it help you to start a separete thread listing the potential 747SP decals you planned to do
      and we as a modeler community would sign which ones to order
      and as soon as we exceed the breakeven threshold we would pre-pay you to lower your risk?

      I remember that there was quite a euphoria about you announcing the SP decals.

      Just thinking ...

      Cheers,

      Christian

      Christian Klepp
      Lightyears Landscape Photography
      Where Geoscience Meets Art
      www.christianklepp.com

      Author Message

      Speedbird269


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 14
      Location: Berkshire
      Occupation: Avionics Sales
      Age:

      Post #77001, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Back to the B757 . The two RR engines on the B757 were the RB211-535C and -535E4 . The -535C was similar to the P&W with a visible core nozzle. The E4 had the extended fan nozzle , hiding the core nozzle. Early RR B757s delivered to Eastern , BAW and Monarch had the 535C . Eastern and Monarch retrofitted the E4 . BA retained the 535C on its G-BIK? And G- BMR?. As the benefits of the E4 were marginal on the very short European sectors . The last batch of BA 757s had the E4 . I remember the early days of BA B757 operations when the engine had an issue in rain . These required 100% power take offs , no de rate regardless of weight . Blasting off to Paris from Heathrow was spectacular!. I canít wait for the Zvezda B757 .

      Author Message

      Jon


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 176
      Location:
      Occupation: Grapchic Designing
      Age: 41

      Post #77003, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I guess that a New 757 kit will be welcomed by many, specially from ZVEZDA, and even if they dont include winglets or b options there is already a huge market for 3d print out there. Currently working on Old and not so old Liveries, stay tuned.

      JON

      Author Message

      Jennings


      Contributors

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 4454
      Location: The great desert southwest, USA
      Occupation: Nurse Anesthesiologist
      Age: 118

      Post #77005, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      lichtjahre :
      would it help you to start a separete thread listing the potential 747SP decals you planned to do
      and we as a modeler community would sign which ones to order
      and as soon as we exceed the breakeven threshold we would pre-pay you to lower your risk?



      Thatís not really the problem. The problem is, based on sales of other stuff and how long it takes to sell them (without it turning into a full time job), there simply arenít that many people around the world who are going to want to pony up.

      To be honest, Iím getting to the point in life (I turn 59 next year) that I want to start backing out of decal artwork entirely and spend some time actually building models for a change. Iíve got a HUGE stash of kits, and Iíll need to live to be about 157 years old to build them all, if I were to start tomorrow.

      Author Message

      planecrazy


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 95
      Location: Rhode Island
      Occupation: retired airline employee
      Age: 61

      Post #77006, posted on 11-27-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I can relate for sure. If I never purchase another airliner kit I think I have enough in my stash to last me until my eyes give out.

      Author Message

      lichtjahre


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 269
      Location: Hamburg
      Occupation: Landscape Photographer and Scientist
      Age: 128

      Post #77007, posted on 11-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Jennings,
      I understand all this very well,
      and indeed we all have more airliners and decals to work upon
      than years to exist upon this beautiful planet.
      Enjoy modelling!

      So instead of pitying that I wont see new decals from you
      I will value all the ones I do have
      and I look tremendously forward to build many IL62 and IL76...)

      And now back to the Zvezda 757... (sorry for getting off-topic here)
      Owning 5 beautiful AA 757 with both PW and RR engines I am not sure if I need the Zvezda kit on top,
      but certainly it will be a gem as well, especially if it features a flaps out config just as their IL62 does.
      In the latter case I will have an eye on it for sure )

      Cheers,
      Christian

      Christian Klepp
      Lightyears Landscape Photography
      Where Geoscience Meets Art
      www.christianklepp.com

      Author Message

      RB211-524


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 41
      Location:
      Occupation:
      Age:

      Post #77008, posted on 11-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      From what I remember from a few years ago, following the release of their fantastic Il-76 kit, Zvezda was escaping the "Ultimate Kit" concept of providing the wings in the dirty configuration.

      Sad, but the extra cost in tooling these extra parts probably didn't reflect in additional sales.

      If they bring us something as good as their splendid MC-21 (I believe it is the latest twin they released in 1/144), this 757 is going to be the usual very reasonably priced, accurate, detailed and build-friendly kit.

      I have an AA 757 original release with the clear nose and a later -300 kit, of course I will cherish these fine models.

      Cheers, Stephane

      Frankensteined :
      Zvezda 767-400ER, Heller A321-200

      Author Message

      waltmertins


      Upper Deck Member

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 968
      Location: IAH
      Occupation: waltmertins
      Age:

      Post #77011, posted on 11-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks J
      Do retire! Please! Go build models, you need that!
      Years and years of hearing you complain!
      Got ALL of us old!
      New 757 will be great! There are other decal makers out there
      Like 8a, 26, V1, Ahmedís decals and vintage flyer decals that do much better job
      So, go, go in peace, you had your moments, they are GONE!
      By!

      Walter
      Houston, TX

      Author Message

      LH707


      Upper Deck Member

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 1299
      Location:
      Occupation:
      Age:

      Post #77016, posted on 11-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      RB211-535C:


      RB211-535E:


      PW2037-2043 (they all look the same):


      The most common was the 535E4, with the greatest overall share (59% IIRC) and the most customers. The PW only sold as well as it did because UA/DL/NW bought gobs of them.

      Author Message

      gjake


      Contributors

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 400
      Location: Mobile, AL
      Occupation: Retired
      Age:

      Post #77019, posted on 11-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Jennings, best wishes for whatever you choose to do going forward. Thanks for the many years of beautiful decals you have produced, I'm sure I have enough of them to last my lifetime and then some.

      Gene

      Author Message

      RB211-524


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 41
      Location:
      Occupation:
      Age:

      Post #77020, posted on 11-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Woah, the BA Negus and Eastern liveries suited the 757 so well, especially the Eastern one IMHO.

      I feel the 757 had a quite particular nose geometry on which wrap-around cheatlines worked so well.

      So happy that looker is coming to us as a modern IM kit.

      Cheers, Stephane

      Frankensteined :
      Zvezda 767-400ER, Heller A321-200

      Author Message

      727flyer


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 161
      Location: Appalachian Mountains
      Occupation: Kerosene-burner
      Age:

      Post #77021, posted on 11-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Wonder how many Rubles it would take to convince them to do a 727-200 kit.......

      "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!"

      Author Message

      Jon


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 176
      Location:
      Occupation: Grapchic Designing
      Age: 41

      Post #77022, posted on 11-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      727flyer :
      Wonder how many Rubles it would take to convince them to do a 727-200 kit.......



      Hopefully we will see it on 2022.

      Author Message

      Jennings


      Contributors

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 4454
      Location: The great desert southwest, USA
      Occupation: Nurse Anesthesiologist
      Age: 118

      Post #77023, posted on 11-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      727flyer :
      Wonder how many Rubles it would take to convince them to do a 727-200 kit.......



      There is a new 727 coming from another manufacturer.

      Author Message

      Berlin_Uwe


      Upper Deck Member

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 506
      Location: Berlin
      Occupation: Public Servant - JobAgent
      Age: 54

      Post #77026, posted on 11-30-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Oh my god,
      how many 727 models did we get already? And this time it will be "the right one"? Really?
      Crossing fingers. :-)
      A good injection molded B727-100 in 1/72 could be the only reason for me to buy a new one ...
      I really love this bird, one time more since I have this great new book in my hands.
      But an injection molded 757 is much more interessting for me.
      I am pointed out injection molded, because I know and have the AA models.
      But at least injection molded models are my way to go - especially if they have open windows.
      :-)

      Greetings
      Uwe

      Author Message

      Ben Brown


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 221
      Location: Raleigh, NC
      Occupation:
      Age:

      Post #77032, posted on 11-30-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      Jennings :
      Thanks Ben. I think I'm done with airliner decals. Just too expensive for the return these days, and there are so many fingers in the pie it's just not worth it to me.



      Understood. Thanks for making some of the best airliner decals out there!

      Ben

      Author Message

      727flyer


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 161
      Location: Appalachian Mountains
      Occupation: Kerosene-burner
      Age:

      Post #77034, posted on 11-30-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      Jennings :


      There is a new 727 coming from another manufacturer.



      Ooooooooh, that news might just make my year! I won't ask any questions, rather I will just live in the hope that one day I will be able to build a couple of accurate freighters....

      https://www.airliners.net/photo/US-Postal-Service/Boeing-727-22C/35364/L

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Boeing_727-222%28F%29%2C_Emery_Worldwide_AN0207900.jpg

      Mike

      "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!"

      Author Message

      Flaptrack


      Members

       Online status  

       
      Add As Buddy
      Posts: 280
      Location: Berlin SXF
      Occupation: flaptrack
      Age:

      Post #77035, posted on 11-30-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Quote
      Jennings :
      Quote
      727flyer :
      Wonder how many Rubles it would take to convince them to do a 727-200 kit.......



      There is a new 727 coming from another manufacturer.



      that's what i read as well on the pas-decal forum. It was said that early next year a Boeing 727-100 followed by the -200 will be released from an unnamed manufacturer. It it probably not zvezda or eastern express...wonder if it might be Roden or Amodel...pretty sure some Russian/ukrainian manufacturer.

      Atari