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      Post #77215, posted on 12-28-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi there, how do I research the history of which aircraft and airline started flying to which destinations?

      For example: I want to know if Philippine Airlines ever flew 747's in their old livery with the blue & red cheatlines into Kai Tak airport. Here's what I know so far:

      -The old livery got replaced by the eurowhite livery in 1986.
      -According to wikipedia, the only 747's Philippine Airlines had before 1986 were 200B's.
      -There are plenty of photos taken in the 1990's of the 747-200B's in Hong Kong, but in the new eurowhite livery. No photos of 747-200B's in Philippine Airline's old cheatlined livery in Hong Kong. That could mean either: a) Philippine Airlines never flew their 747-200's to Hong Kong before 1986, or b) PA did fly 747-200's to Hong Kong before 1986 and no one was around to photograph it.

      I tried to look at the flight logs on airfleets.net, but they look incomplete. No flights to or from Hong Kong listed. Anywhere else I should look?

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      Post #77218, posted on 12-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I checked my trusty 1983 OAG and found only DC-10 and A300ís scheduled into HKG. Iím pretty sure they would have substituted a jumbo occasionally seeing as HKG being such an important destination (the first jumbo was delivered in 1979 in the old Ďsailí cheat line colors).

      Best regards....Duncan

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      Post #77222, posted on 12-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks Duncan. First time hearing about OAG. Is it expensive to extract data from there? I could spend hours feeding my curiosity.

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      Post #77223, posted on 12-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      This website has some useful info:

      http://www.departedflights.com/index.html

      Cheers
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      Post #77224, posted on 12-29-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      You could go directly with OAG to order the data from whenever you want but it is prohibitively expensive. I went ahead and trolled eBay until the year I wanted popped up. Just be aware there is a domestic us edition (blue) and a rest of world edition (green). Happy hunting!

      Best regards....Duncan

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      Post #77227, posted on 12-30-2020 GMT-5 hours    
      I use airliners.net as a point to start. You can neck down the search by aircraft type, airline, airports,and the year the photo was taken. That usually gets a pretty good sampling of data. Of course, the further back you are researching, the less data there is. You also have to be aware of airport name changes, ie....New York International to Idlewild to JFK, and so forth.

      Having said that, no results for 747 in Kai Tek in the older livery. Looks like there are a couple of pics of DC-10-30 and A300 in the older livery in Hong Kong. Maybe they didn't fly the 747's into Hong Kong until later and used the other wide bodies for that route. A bit of a mystery there.

      Good Luck,

      Mark

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      Post #77346, posted on 01-09-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks Nick and everyone. The Departed Flights website has the type of info I'm looking for, even if it's not complete. Better than nothing, good hints there.