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Post #55355, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
At least temporarily! I just can't let the opportunity go by to do some decals (the way I want them done) for the wonderful new Zvezda Il-62M. So at least for now, Liveries Unlimited decals are making their first appearance since 2002. I'm working on several decals for the Il-62 (as previously shown with profiles), but here are the first two actual decals. Stand by for cost, availability date, and ordering info.



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LOT 1978 scheme. This sheet features all of the portraits of famous Poles that were applied to airplanes in this scheme over several years. It includes details for both the Il-62 (NK-8 powered) and Il-62M fleet that received these colors. As you'd expect from Liveries Unlimited, they're extensively researched and have a wealth of accurate detail. They are designed specifically to fit the Zvezda kit, and they do, very precisely. Our window sheet includes accurately shaped and sized windscreen panels, and a first for us - an oversized, double printed white decal that will allow you to 'rough-in' the masking around these tiny windscreen panels, then use the opaque white decal with the exact shapes of the windows to finish the job.






The Interflug sheet, like the LOT sheet, features markings for both early and late Il-62s and Il-62Ms. The differences were subtle, but, again, extensive research bears out the differences. The Zvezda kit has inaccurately sized and shaped doors and hatches, but our sheets have accurate outlines to correct this crucial detail for you. You have the option of properly placed doors and hatches with a length of cheat line already incorporated, or traditional separate outlines. As above, the windscreen decal will make a tough job much easier. Our cabin windows are based on measurements and a full size tracing of an actual Il-62 cabin window, and the window spacing is based on documentation from the Ilyushin Design Bureau! It doesn't come any more accurate than that. You'll have the option of using decal for the large red areas of the tail, or painting the red and using decals for the white logo. We've also included markings for these aircraft when three of them formerly operated by the East German government as VIP airplanes were taken over (briefly) by the Federal German Luftwaffe. Military Il-62s are pretty rare!





Stay tuned for more info!

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Post #55359, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Ah... Interflug.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you

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Post #55360, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
One of my favorites too I just realized that it's hard to see in these images, but what appears like a big blank patch in the middle of both decals is where the colored corner "L" shapes for the emergency cut-out locations on the fuselage are located.

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Post #55361, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Greetings!

Well, well.............. If Gary Larson could un burnout and do some more Far Side, so can you Jennings. Welcome back! I welcome the kit and your decal offerings. Now, who will be carrying them, or will you just be selling direct?

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Post #55362, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Still working out the sales arrangement. Stay tuned for more info.

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Post #55363, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Welcome back Jennings! Will there be a sheet number for these decals?

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Post #55364, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Stay tuned. Still working all that out.

These will be VERY limited editions, and once they're gone, they'll be gone for good.

As soon as I have more info I'll let you know.

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Post #55365, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Awesome news! LU decals got me back into this hobby about twenty years ago. I was so sick of thick, inaccurate, discolored decals from the kit and some aftermarket sets. I built the LU Carnival 737 out of an Airfix kit and was so happy with the results! I'm still working down my stash of decals that I bought (TACA 767 next).

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Post #55367, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
no silverframes
but anyway i will try to get both

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Post #55369, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Not sure what you mean "no silver frames"? Are you talking about the cabin windows? If so, you'll notice there are two complete sets - one with and one without silver frames. There are *very* few Il-62s that have silver frames around the windows (so far I can only find one scheme that has them).

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Post #55372, posted on 11-28-2014 GMT-5 hours    
We can call this "The Return of the Jedi"...Thank you Jennings!

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Post #55379, posted on 11-29-2014 GMT-5 hours    
No stencils? No silver, unfilled frames? no walkways? That's poor these days in airliner modeling.

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Post #55381, posted on 11-29-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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No stencils? No silver, unfilled frames? no walkways? That's poor these days in airliner modeling.

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Neither INTERFLUG nor LOT or even CSA had silver framed cabin windows.
The lack of silver frames are no mistake!

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Post #55383, posted on 11-29-2014 GMT-5 hours    
The only Il-62s I've found that definitely had silver frames were on the very earliest 1973 scheme Aeroflot airplanes. The stripes were different widths and the Aeroflot titles were much smaller than what became standard. These will be included in my large Aeroflot sheet. Both unframed and silver framed windows ARE included on the decal.



As for the stencils, why would I include them when the ones in the kit are perfectly adequate? Il-62s rarely, if ever, had emergency walkways on them (I've never seen a single photo showing them - if you have some please share them). Including stencils would more than double the size of each decal and drastically increase the price for absolutely no reason.

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Post #55385, posted on 11-29-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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No stencils? No silver, unfilled frames? no walkways? That's poor these days in airliner modeling.

Marcel



The silver window frame question has already been answered. I am no Il-62 expert and decided to look for walkways. At first glance, Il-62s don't have them. Now I must admit these are no LOT or Interflug.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Ilyushin-Il-62M/2027668/L/&sid=1cec714b3dcdda89c8949f5227253468

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Investavia/Ilyushin-Il-62M/1830018/L/&sid=1cec714b3dcdda89c8949f5227253468

I can only see very tiny markings that would probably not be visible in 1/144 - and I wonder what they are. They look unusual.

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Post #55386, posted on 11-29-2014 GMT-5 hours    
The Zvezda kit decal has extensive, and very well done stencils and walkways. They had access to real airplanes and the Ilyushin OKB to get all that information.

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Post #55400, posted on 11-30-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Here's the Tarom sheet. You will be able to build two complete models from the sheet - one each in the delivery colors and the later 1980s colors. Materials for NK-8 powered Il-62s as well as Il-62Ms are included, including the details specific to each individual airplane (there were subtle differences in all of them!).




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Post #55403, posted on 11-30-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Here's the Aeroflot Il-62M prototype and early delivery scheme. We have included markings for all six aircraft that carried this attractive scheme, including the many detail differences between them. The registration numbers are the correct style, based on detailed close-up photos in my collection. There were four different treatments of the striping at the front, and the sheet caters to all three types, including with and without clear windscreen panels for each variant.




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Post #55405, posted on 11-30-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Those are beautiful sets that you designed Jennings. I'll get myself the aeroflot one once available. But I too miss open cabin window decals. So here is a suggestion which I hope you will consider should you ever design any other decals. Could you make blank cabin window without frames and open cabin windows with frames? To my understanding would this satisfy all, as those who like open cabin windows will only use the silver frames, and those that want to use the blank ones can use the blanks windows and at the frames to their likings. I believe the Ethiopian 757 decal set that you released also had this. Thanks for considering this.

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Post #55406, posted on 11-30-2014 GMT-5 hours    
A couple of problems with that. Other than a few aircraft that carried the very earliest Aeroflot 1973 scheme (see above), I've found no other Il-62 with silver window frames. Period. Not a single one.

In order to do the decal stripes with open windows it would mean providing two of every set of stripes, which would significantly increase the size and cost of the decals. I understand that some people want open clear windows, but there's only so much you can do as a decal artist. If you install the clear cabin windows in your model but don't putty them in, you can still apply the decal (assuming you've masked off all those windows before painting) and then carefully cut out the decal around the circumference of the window with a sharp blade. I generally provide extra stripe color to allow for patching of mistakes. Not something I'd do if I wanted to maintain my sanity, but it's possible.

Also, the window spacing on the aft cabin windows of the Zvezda kit isn't correct. My window decals are.

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Post #55416, posted on 12-01-2014 GMT-5 hours    
This is great news! Any contribution to our sport should be welcomed, especially the return of a great.

Jennings, as much as I do enjoy arguing with you from time to time; I'm sorry to see people bust your chops for trying to share with the rest of us. I feel the vast majority of us here understand you're not getting rich off these sheets AND that you could just have easily printed some for your personal use without the flak. Nice work

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Post #55417, posted on 12-01-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks. Believe me, my skin is a *lot* thicker than that.

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Post #55420, posted on 12-02-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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Not sure what you mean "no silver frames"? Are you talking about the cabin windows? If so, you'll notice there are two complete sets - one with and one without silver frames. There are *very* few Il-62s that have silver frames around the windows (so far I can only find one scheme that has them).

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you win that one.

same with me, though i really like to argue with you and i still dont like smarta** posts, i have to say, that your decal work really is worth every penny. *thumbsup*

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Post #55423, posted on 12-02-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Just one little query regarding the LOT decals -should the Polish flag stripes that go back from the circular tail logo be white/red/white, or just red and white?

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Post #55424, posted on 12-02-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Hmm... You're right, and I'm not sure how that happened! It wasn't that way on my original art. Can't see the forest for the trees sometimes!

Thanks for pointing that out.. It's fixed now.

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Post #55433, posted on 12-02-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Don't forget CSA old colors.


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Post #55435, posted on 12-02-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Working on it... With multiple subtle variations. Believe it or not, as simple as this livery appears, it was one of the most difficult to get exactly right. It took many iterations and much study!


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Post #55436, posted on 12-02-2014 GMT-5 hours    
I love it.

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Post #55437, posted on 12-02-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Here's the final version of Aeroflot. I think I've covered just about every variation of the "standard" 1973 Aeroflot blue cheat line scheme. I even found several I wasn't aware of in researching this one. You'll be able to do at least two aircraft off the sheet (one very early version with the wider stripes and small titles, and one of the many variations of the later standard scheme. Of course you'll get enough letters and numbers to do any Il-62 that carried this scheme. We're also throwing in some really interesting markings for the VIP birds after they got their "Air Force Oneski" type markings in around 1990. With the gold "Sovietski Soyuz" titles, and the coat of arms of the USSR on the left side (really, really tiny in this scale!). This one will require a little 'modeling skill' to add the big canoe that housed secure comms equipment, but nothing too mind-bending if you use the drawings provided. After the fall of Interflug, their airplanes made their way eastward, and at least one ended up in what looked for all the world like an Aeroflot arctic division scheme! By combining the titles, flag, and registration from this sheet with the trim from the Interflug sheet, you can build this interesting airplane. We're covering many subtle variations on the basic blue, white, and light grey Aeroflot scheme as well. If you see anything we've missed, please speak now!




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Post #55455, posted on 12-03-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Jennings,

when will the decal sheets come out for sale?
And...I read somewhere: Limited Edition.
INTERFLUG! I want INTERFLUG! I MUST have INTERFLUG!!!!!
Under all circumstances! Absolutely, in any case!
Pre-orders possible? Payment in advance? Do whatever you want!
Just to be sure to get one sheet before sold out!
Would KILL for it!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR............

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Post #55456, posted on 12-03-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Realistically, they won't be available until into the new year. Even if I finished the artwork today, it would take until late January at the earliest to get them printed. And I'm not to that point yet!

Just as *soon* as I have any more information I will let you know, I PROMISE. No pre-orders please. Don't worry, you'll be able to get them. The first announcement of their availability will be made in this forum, so you'll be the first to know.

Stay tuned!



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Post #55462, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
And here are a couple more! CSA includes markings for Il-62s (NK-8) and Il-62Ms (D-30) with the subtle variations in the livery from the first delivery in 1969 through the end of their service in this classic livery.







And from the Hermit Kingdom (aka the other side of the looking glass...), enough markings to do any CAAK/Air Koryo Il-62M (with the exception of the very first livery seen only on 885). I've never found a photo of P-889 (which crashed in July 1983), but I threw in a "9" just in case you have. I'd love to do the pudgy boy's current ride, but I only have four photos of her, and none clear enough to do the extremely complex style of lettering it carries. If someone comes up with better photos of this mysterious airplane I'd be inclined to do a supplement sheet with the markings. As far as I can tell it carries no sort of registration or serial number whatsoever. Meantime, enjoy the classic CAAK/Air Koryo scheme in all its wild and wonderful variations.




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Post #55464, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
I cant“help it. Somehow Jennings loves this russian Airliner....
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Post #55466, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
My plan is to have a whole bookshelves or two of nothing but IL-62. All the Eastern Bloc and China and North Korea. The IL-62 is and awesome aircraft. And very high or at the top of my list.


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Post #55468, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
I can understand that. I enjoyed a Flight from Moscow to Berlin in 1991. In the last weeks of Interflug. That was a great flight.
Can“t wait to have it my shelves...

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Post #55469, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
last tarom scheme + malev would be nice

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Post #55473, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
I don't think I'm going to do Malev. They only flew one airplane, and only for a very, very short time (4 months in 1991). The post-communist airline schemes don't interest me all that much

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Post #55477, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Hello Jennings

Congratulations for your excellent work.

I have some corrections for AEROFLOT decal. In your AEROFLOT word is letter P (R) far to letter E and close to letter O and has a thin belly. It's no correct
I done correct logo in vector format few months ago and You can use it.: http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/aeroflot-1



Squared registration numbers need some correction too.
Correct numbers I done with the help of original pattern, You can download here: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=54361474761702054614
It has for example CCCP-86485: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeroflot/Ilyushin-Il-62M/1712011/L/&sid=15b876d893916553331db11c8f337c97

After overhaul and repaint number 4 in registration was different in detail (was wider) CCCP-86497: https://www.flickr.com/photos/53277566@N06/5371038376/in/photolist-
down.: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=62323489839418492422

I hope that these files will by useful for You.

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Post #55480, posted on 12-04-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Spaseebo Roman!

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Post #55488, posted on 12-05-2014 GMT-5 hours    
Jennings...Hermit Kingdom Presidential aircraft

In the first posting the second photo does reveal some details of the script type
on the "Fat Boy's" Il-62...Also note in the third photo it appears that there are no upper wing markings....From what I have read the aircraft is used only within the country for "Fat Boy' to make his rounds. Perhaps that is why it has no registration?

The second link is very entertaining....you will love the last 45 second. Everyone please wave good-bye to Fat Boy!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2626197/It-s-Air-Force-Un-North-Korean-dictator-Kim-Jong-gets-private-jet-officials-say-leader-likes-steering-aircraft-despite-not-qualified-pilot.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMe163w_21U

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Post #55491, posted on 12-05-2014 GMT-5 hours    
He'll soon be the one and only Kim Jong-un, as it was reported yesterday that he has decreed that everyone else in the country with that name has to change it!

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Post #55492, posted on 12-05-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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Post #55493, posted on 12-05-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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What do you think??





Looks great....we most likely will never get close enough to know for sure....The tail logo
looks familiar, as I have seen that somewhere else other than on the tail of this aircraft.

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Post #55494, posted on 12-05-2014 GMT-5 hours    
At a glance it's similar to one seen on some USAF F-16s (I wonder where they got it?).

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Oh, I'm sure we will, sooner rather than later. Lots of Korea watchers are seeing signs of the beginning of the cracks in the wall.





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Cabforward :we most likely will never get close enough to know for sure....



{/quote}
Oh, I'm sure we will see a major change, sooner rather than later. Lots of Korea watchers are seeing signs of the beginning of the cracks in the wall.
{Unquote}

Yes, I agree there will be major changes in the near future.

Watching the video of the military air show made me wonder when will one of those pilots, or soldiers will take aim on their puppet leader, and his "Cronies"?

In my "Past Life" I assisted a major NGO (non-profit) organization in transporting relief and agricultural goods to FNJ on our B747F aircraft (3 trips). It was an amazing experience...I have some nice souvenirs that were gifts from the North.

The only thing the world will miss is "Fat Boy's" entertainment value...The "One of a Kind Screw Ball"!

Jennings..I sure hope you plan on adding the Mystery Il-62M to your decal projects.

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Post #55512, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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A couple of problems with that. Other than a few aircraft that carried the very earliest Aeroflot 1973 scheme (see above), I've found no other Il-62 with silver window frames. Period. Not a single one.

In order to do the decal stripes with open windows it would mean providing two of every set of stripes, which would significantly increase the size and cost of the decals. I understand that some people want open clear windows, but there's only so much you can do as a decal artist. If you install the clear cabin windows in your model but don't putty them in, you can still apply the decal (assuming you've masked off all those windows before painting) and then carefully cut out the decal around the circumference of the window with a sharp blade. I generally provide extra stripe color to allow for patching of mistakes. Not something I'd do if I wanted to maintain my sanity, but it's possible.

Also, the window spacing on the aft cabin windows of the Zvezda kit isn't correct. My window decals are.



Thanks for pointing that out Jennings. I think you do great work and I am very thankful for your contributions to our hobby. Not only the decals itself, but also your knowledge.

Maybe I'll try cutting out the windows in that case. Have you come across any other discrepancies between the model and the real deal other than the window spacing at the end?

Regarding the silver window frames, my request did not only concern the IL-62, but other aircraft as well. I believe that there are quite a few of us that are interested in open cabin window decals (silver frames only). So any chance of that becoming reality for any other designs you might do in the future?

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Post #55517, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
The other problem is that IMHO there has never been a single airliner kit that had cabin windows of exactly the right size and shape. I guess the Zvezda Il-62M comes closest, but then the spacing on some of theirs isn't right. Providing silver frames with no 'window' wouldn't do much good if the size/shape of the clear glass behind it is incorrect. Most airliner models have windows that are **grossly** wrong, unfortunately.

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Post #55518, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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Cabforward :I sure hope you plan on adding the Mystery Il-62M to your decal projects.



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Post #55520, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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Cabforward :I sure hope you plan on adding the Mystery Il-62M to your decal projects.



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Love the art work, just wasn't sure if you were going to print the decals....however, I'm sure glad you will be.

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