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      Post #55515, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      My best friend Tallulah LaMinge has just texted me to tell me that Roden have announced a new BAC VC10 kit - for those who like that kind of thing......

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      Post #55516, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      It's listed in the "In processing" category along with the Bristol Britannia.

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      Post #55525, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Standard or Super?

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      Post #55526, posted on 12-06-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      My best friend Tallulah LaMinge



      You're making that up...

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      Post #55528, posted on 12-07-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      Caravellarella :
      My best friend Tallulah LaMinge



      You're making that up...



      No he's not......www.roden.eu/HTML/models1

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      Post #55530, posted on 12-07-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      No, I meant the name. That's got to be a drag queen name!

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      Post #55531, posted on 12-07-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      No, I meant the name. That's got to be a drag queen name!



      Absolutely!

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      Post #55541, posted on 12-07-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      You bet, & she's vile with it......

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      Post #55543, posted on 12-07-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Now *that* doesn't surprise me

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      Post #55563, posted on 12-08-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Only Terry would ever admit to the doggy name , to me it sounds a bit fishy !

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      Post #55564, posted on 12-08-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Aren't we getting a little off-topic here?

      Regards,

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      Post #55565, posted on 12-08-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      They must be kin to Clint! on the serious side,I have the same question as Alan.Is it a standard VC-10 or a Super VC-10?
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      Post #55568, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      On their website it is reported as "VC 10" but the picture is very tiny:

      http://www.roden.eu/HTML/framemodels1.htm

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      Post #55569, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Hoped for a Super-VC10 but think the new Roden kit will become a "stamdard".
      Otherwise Roden would indicate "Super-VC10" on their webpage.
      It is logical?

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      Post #55570, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      Hoped for a Super-VC10 but think the new Roden kit will become a "stamdard".
      Otherwise Roden would indicate "Super-VC10" on their webpage.
      It is logical?

      Sven


      The picture on the Roden site looks more like a super than a standard, but we'll have to wait and see. If it's any good, I might have to build a BOAC copy (of whichever) to complement the AA Pan Am 707 I have in my stash.

      I'm not a huge VC10 nut, but would the conversion be beyond normal modeling skill? IIRC, the fuselage length needs changing, the pylons are different (engines on the Super are 11"/280 mm further out and angled 3 degrees), and the wing leading edge has a 4% chord extension (is this noticeable?). Seems like the 4% extension was all the rage in the 60s (also on DC-8).


      BTW, were you thinking "ist das logisch?" In this case that might translate best to "does it make sense?" I just realized that "logisch" is such a versatile word that can mean logical ("logische Handlung"), sensical ("das klingt Logisch"), and certain ("Na Logisch, man!"). Sorry for the tangent....

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      Post #55571, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      BTW, were you thinking "ist das logisch?" In this case that might translate best to "does it make sense?" I just realized that "logisch" is such a versatile word that can mean logical ("logische Handlung"), sensical ("das klingt Logisch"), and certain ("Na Logisch, man!"). Sorry for the tangent....



      Hey,
      you're right! Absolutely!
      Cussedness of translation.
      Always open minded....
      Think I should see "Star Trek" in original english to hear Mr. Spock's phrase: "Das ist (un)logisch!" ....
      Sensical would be the right word....
      So I say better: DOES IT MAKE SENSE! (= dt. Macht das Sinn?).

      <<rewind - stop - play:
      Does it make sense Roden announces a "standard" VC10 kit
      and releases a Super VC10?
      I would prefer a Super!!!!!

      I hope I said it right????

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      Post #55572, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      ok, me as a german too, it would make sense for roden, making a super VC10, as the airfix VC-10 still exists and if only as tanker. but there is no actual super VC-10 as an injected molded kit, but the FROG=NOVO for hunderts of bucks and maybe not that accurate.
      As always, maybe try welsh as I do with the one with resin wings.
      For converting a VC-10 you can also use the airfix by taking the Braz conversions for fuselage, wings and engines

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      Post #55573, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      Aren't we getting a little off-topic here?



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      Post #55574, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      think we found a way back to topic

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      Post #55575, posted on 12-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      I don't think it's a given that Roden would call their "in processing" kit a Super VC10 if it were, in fact, a Super. It may or may not be, but we'll have to just wait and see.

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      Post #55579, posted on 12-10-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      They got a contactadress on their website so I mailed them.
      Lets wait and see.

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      Post #55580, posted on 12-10-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      <<rewind - stop - play:
      Does it make sense Roden announces a "standard" VC10 kit
      and releases a Super VC10?
      I would prefer a Super!!!!!

      I hope I said it right????

      Sven


      Bingo!

      Jennings, I think you're right, too early to call it. Let's see how (if) they respond to Auke's email.

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      Post #55585, posted on 12-11-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Ok so here's the tiny Roden photo:



      which I Google Image searched to get this slightly different angle but bigger version of what seems to be G-ARTA at Farnborough. Standard.

      Not that Roden need follow the photo, but they did do so with the first 720 announcement and the Britannia.

      I guess as long as the box art matches the kit!
      Thinking of the infamous Revell 1/120 DC-9 short body-10 box art.

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      Post #55586, posted on 12-11-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      ...Not that Roden need follow the photo, but they did do so with the first 720 announcement and the Britannia.

      I guess as long as the box art matches the kit!....


      That's what I mean!

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      Post #55587, posted on 12-11-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      the box not allways follows the contents.

      remember revell 1:144 B727-100, box shows 727-200
      doyusha 1:100 DC8-62, box shows DC8-61
      revell 1:144 B707-100, box shows 707-300

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      Post #55588, posted on 12-11-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      Ok so here's the tiny Roden photo:



      which I Google Image searched to get this slightly different angle but bigger version of what seems to be G-ARTA at Farnborough. Standard.

      Not that Roden need follow the photo, but they did do so with the first 720 announcement and the Britannia.



      So we can expect the prototype's blunt wingtips?

      I find it cool how the VC10 and 707-300/400 had almost the same wingspan, then both got the 1.5 foot flared tips in the 320B and definitive VC10 configs.

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      Post #55590, posted on 12-11-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      It's utterly and completely pointless to speculate. There is absolutely *no* way anyone who doesn't work for Roden can know this information until we see the kit. But it would make *zero* sense for them to make a kit of the VC10 prototype, now wouldn't it?

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      Post #55592, posted on 12-11-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Agreed, Jennings. Though it seems to me that companies tend to do things that make "zero sense" quite often.

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      Post #55593, posted on 12-12-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      It's utterly and completely pointless to speculate. There is absolutely *no* way anyone who doesn't work for Roden can know this information until we see the kit. But it would make *zero* sense for them to make a kit of the VC10 prototype, now wouldn't it?


      Hence the smiley....

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      Post #55594, posted on 12-12-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Off topic again, but did anyone else notice that in the changing box on the top left of the website, it shows a VC-140B Jetstar

      Good to see them do something different with the kit, as I'm not interested in a USAF Lizard scheme.

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      Post #55595, posted on 12-12-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      I sure wish they'd bump the JetStar up to 1/72. That Anigrand "thing" is a POS.

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      Post #55602, posted on 12-14-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      I sure wish they'd bump the JetStar up to 1/72. That Anigrand "thing" is a POS.



      Yes a 1/72 Jetstar would be terrific, I could junk my old Airmodel kit, well I probably should just do that anyway

      Is/was there any Anigrand kit that is not a POS, I always assumed that they used the same design team that did the Kepyuan kits

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      Post #55604, posted on 12-14-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      I sure wish they'd bump the JetStar up to 1/72. That Anigrand "thing" is a POS.



      Yes a 1/72 Jetstar would be terrific, I could junk my old Airmodel kit, well I probably should just do that anyway

      Is/was there any Anigrand kit that is not a POS, I always assumed that they used the same design team that did the Kepyuan kits



      cant second this. the AN22 , got from Anigrand was very great

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      Post #57812, posted on 05-01-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      one problem for the super VC-10 is:

      so less operators.

      I have until now (welsh): BOAC first livery, BritishAirways last livery, East african airways.

      so what is left ? BOAC last livery, BOAC colors with BritishAirways titles. not amusing.

      does anyone know any other operators ?

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      Post #57813, posted on 05-01-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Nigeria airways, Gulf Air, East African Airways, Air Malawi, and Ghana Airways operated the VC-10. The following decals are available from www.26decals.com. You can purchase Ghana Airways decal from wwww.joydecals.com.

      Air Malawi

      East African Airways

      Gulf Air old and new color scheme

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      Post #57814, posted on 05-01-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      Nigeria airways, Gulf Air, East African Airways, Air Malawi, and Ghana Airways operated the VC-10. The following decals are available from www.26decals.com. You can purchase Ghana Airways decal from wwww.joydecals.com.

      Air Malawi

      East African Airways

      Gulf Air old and new color scheme



      But only East African was a "super". all others are "normal" VC-10 and RODEN seems to release a "Super"

      Ralf